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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mumsnet Obsession With Penises

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Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 18:33

My controversial opinion is that most of the Mums who obsess here over penises, uteruses and chromosomes, would pick more important and interesting topics if their own child was trans.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/07/2025 13:24

CorvusPurpureus · 03/07/2025 22:14

I'm in Forn Parts, with a garden drowning in windfall mangoes. Gave it a go with fresh mangoes instead of apples, & my homemade mango marmalade.

It was AWESOME. Thank you @SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius!

Using mangos and mango marmalade sounds excellent, @CorvusPurpureus, and I’m glad you enjoyed it. I love mangos so I am very jealous of your mango glut.

DifferentChoicesTooLate · 04/07/2025 16:59

Thought I would catch up with this entertaining thread and disappointed that @Manfreglory has not offered her views on any of the later discussions. I wonder if she can make marmalade?

SidewaysOtter · 04/07/2025 19:00

DifferentChoicesTooLate · 04/07/2025 16:59

Thought I would catch up with this entertaining thread and disappointed that @Manfreglory has not offered her views on any of the later discussions. I wonder if she can make marmalade?

And we are yet to hear her opinion on the various different forms of Tunnocks products 😡

Manfreglory · 05/07/2025 00:15

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 11:10

I think this thread started off in Chat (not Feminism Chat), which is where the original "What’s the most controversial opinion you hold?" thread is located but is full.

Then, due to the nature of the topic, Mumsnet shunted it to FWR 🙄

Unless the OP cunningly started a thread in AIBU in May to establish a false persona: they are an adult; originally from the UK; who normally lives in "North America"; but is currently living in the UK looking after their father and has a daughter in Canada.

Not clear if M or F.

So many weird contributions to FWR recently and Mumsnet Advanced Search being so effin useless that I am routinely using an internet search engine to search for, eg. "Manfreglory" site:mumsnet.com

Double quotes around the user name helps to exclude false positives from search results.

Some of the other unusual posts that have been plaguing us, that I wrongly suspected were made by new kids on the block coming here from Reddit, have turned out to be from long-standing Mumsnetters who are not FWR regulars.

Mumsnet's habit of shunting threads that started elsewhere into FWR is not helping things. Particularly when neither the OP nor FWR regulars realise what has happened.

It would avoid misunderstandings if MNHQ made an announcement in-thread when they did this.

You sound like such a nutcase/stalker. Listen to yourself!

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POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 05/07/2025 01:01

Manfreglory · 05/07/2025 00:15

You sound like such a nutcase/stalker. Listen to yourself!

It is common practice on Mumsnet to use the Advanced Search to check whether (apparently) new posters on the FWR Board with "controversial" views and a combative style have any posting history.

However, Advanced Search is not as reliable as an internet search engine site search.

I do not take offence because you are apparently new to Mumsnet and FWR so would not be aware of this, so perhaps this does look like "stalking" to you. "Nutcase" is pushing it a bit though.

Going by your only previous post you have obviously been going through a difficult time lately. I hope things have improved but that if you are looking to Mumsnetters for support that you consider whether being quite so stroppy and insulting is the best way to go about things.

Manfreglory · 05/07/2025 01:20

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 05/07/2025 01:01

It is common practice on Mumsnet to use the Advanced Search to check whether (apparently) new posters on the FWR Board with "controversial" views and a combative style have any posting history.

However, Advanced Search is not as reliable as an internet search engine site search.

I do not take offence because you are apparently new to Mumsnet and FWR so would not be aware of this, so perhaps this does look like "stalking" to you. "Nutcase" is pushing it a bit though.

Going by your only previous post you have obviously been going through a difficult time lately. I hope things have improved but that if you are looking to Mumsnetters for support that you consider whether being quite so stroppy and insulting is the best way to go about things.

Still feels stalky but at thanks for the orientation.

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POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 05/07/2025 01:27

If you are looking for unusual recipes any time you only need to come back to this thread

😎

Shedmistress · 05/07/2025 09:43

Manfreglory · 05/07/2025 01:20

Still feels stalky but at thanks for the orientation.

If you are going to come on here, and say 'My controversial opinion is that most of the Mums who obsess here over penises, uteruses and chromosomes, would pick more important and interesting topics if their own child was trans.'

As if none of us have ever even met or interacted with someone who says they are the opposite sex, accusing us of having an obsession with penises, then don't you think the women who are the subject of your accusation have a right to say 'who the hell is this?'?

KnottyAuty · 05/07/2025 09:49

Manfreglory · 05/07/2025 01:20

Still feels stalky but at thanks for the orientation.

Being a stalker involves following people around where they are/go and giving them unwanted attention/harassment. You’re the one referencing genitals on mumsnet. Surely in that regard you’re way closer to stalky than anyone else on this thread?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/07/2025 09:51

for the benefit of the OP, reading stuff you've posted publicly on the internet and forming an opinion about it <> stalking

you're welcome

RedToothBrush · 05/07/2025 10:17

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 05/07/2025 01:01

It is common practice on Mumsnet to use the Advanced Search to check whether (apparently) new posters on the FWR Board with "controversial" views and a combative style have any posting history.

However, Advanced Search is not as reliable as an internet search engine site search.

I do not take offence because you are apparently new to Mumsnet and FWR so would not be aware of this, so perhaps this does look like "stalking" to you. "Nutcase" is pushing it a bit though.

Going by your only previous post you have obviously been going through a difficult time lately. I hope things have improved but that if you are looking to Mumsnetters for support that you consider whether being quite so stroppy and insulting is the best way to go about things.

We get so many trolls here, checking a posters history is normal and an act of looking after ourselves.

This is normal. Anyone going on an internet date is wise to look up the person they intend to meet on social media. Or if you are thinking about a looker term relationship, considering using Clare's Law.

These are normal things women do to protect themselves. This is not stalking. It is a one off act, rather than a persistent repeated action.

RedToothBrush · 05/07/2025 10:29

Manfreglory · 05/07/2025 01:20

Still feels stalky but at thanks for the orientation.

Look up due diligence.

If it's stalky, then really please explain to me the logic given companies now check prospective employees in this same way due to issues over false identities.

This is a particular feature in IT security, with organised state level attempts to get spies placed in certain companies.

If you'd like to read about this, you can do on this UK government pdf about the threat from North Korea in this area.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/66e2ec410d913026165c3d91/OFSI_Advisory_on_North_Korean_IT_Workers.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjBxfaNsqWOAxVc_7sIHYJ4NcgQFnoECB8QAQ&sqi=2&usg=AOvVaw0rAWDSu2pf-CxasBVzflf6

Genuinely this is a massive online issue, so verifying people and their intentions really is a regular thing for many people for very legitimate reasons.

And definitely due diligence and not 'stalky'.

You've come here, posted in a way that's setting off alarms, so posters have gone to check on what's going on.

This is normal behaviour to do this.

Datun · 05/07/2025 10:52

If someone is trying to advocate for men in women's spaces, by minimising male violence, calling women names and denying reality then of course people are going to look them up.

Calling women nutcases for doing it only justifies it more.

Helleofabore · 05/07/2025 11:09

Datun · 05/07/2025 10:52

If someone is trying to advocate for men in women's spaces, by minimising male violence, calling women names and denying reality then of course people are going to look them up.

Calling women nutcases for doing it only justifies it more.

this is very true Datun.

There really is this dynamic where posters feel it is quite ok to mischaracterise a group of people that they are talking to and resort to name calling etc and they seem to think that people don't have the right of reply. And that someone starting a thread to do it isn't going to be looked up.

KnottyAuty · 05/07/2025 11:13

RedToothBrush · 05/07/2025 10:17

We get so many trolls here, checking a posters history is normal and an act of looking after ourselves.

This is normal. Anyone going on an internet date is wise to look up the person they intend to meet on social media. Or if you are thinking about a looker term relationship, considering using Clare's Law.

These are normal things women do to protect themselves. This is not stalking. It is a one off act, rather than a persistent repeated action.

Gosh I’d never considered it that way - men don’t need to consider this much socially (although if it was a business deal they’d defo do due diligence)

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/07/2025 12:28

Datun · 05/07/2025 10:52

If someone is trying to advocate for men in women's spaces, by minimising male violence, calling women names and denying reality then of course people are going to look them up.

Calling women nutcases for doing it only justifies it more.

I’m just surprised @Manfreglory hasn't called us hysterical - that is a classic go-to insult for women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/07/2025 12:58

Shedmistress · 05/07/2025 09:43

If you are going to come on here, and say 'My controversial opinion is that most of the Mums who obsess here over penises, uteruses and chromosomes, would pick more important and interesting topics if their own child was trans.'

As if none of us have ever even met or interacted with someone who says they are the opposite sex, accusing us of having an obsession with penises, then don't you think the women who are the subject of your accusation have a right to say 'who the hell is this?'?

Quite. It’s not a very good faith conversation.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/07/2025 12:59

Then they just came out with a bunch of silly platitudes without backing up their case in any way and then flounced.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/07/2025 12:59

Helleofabore · 05/07/2025 11:09

this is very true Datun.

There really is this dynamic where posters feel it is quite ok to mischaracterise a group of people that they are talking to and resort to name calling etc and they seem to think that people don't have the right of reply. And that someone starting a thread to do it isn't going to be looked up.

Yes it’s very common.

DeanElderberry · 05/07/2025 19:49

Yes, write a caricature of a group of people, ask why they are like that, get very indignant when they say they aren't. Ask why they wrote things that they have never written. Invent actions for which there is no evidence. Assume they can read the minds of strangers,

And often demonstrate startlingly bad reading comprehension skills (which may be why the have recourse to insulting fantasies).

That said, this thread was worth it for the picture of 'gooeyducks' (one of Betty Macdonald's books had lively descriptions of digging for them). The best misunderstood nature pic I ever managed was a fungus.

Britinme · 06/07/2025 11:08

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 20:12

I'm sorry a trans woman raped you and I believe you. I just don't see why that justifies forcing the 99.99% of non-rapist trans women to use men' loos where they are about 1000 times more likely to be raped than any average woman.

Stats on the number of transwomen raped in men’s loos?

TheKeatingFive · 06/07/2025 11:53

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 20:12

I'm sorry a trans woman raped you and I believe you. I just don't see why that justifies forcing the 99.99% of non-rapist trans women to use men' loos where they are about 1000 times more likely to be raped than any average woman.

This is just pure and utter lies though.

Total nonsense.

Why are you lying to try to shame women into lowering their boundaries and compromising their own safety. What would motivate you to do that?

DeanElderberry · 06/07/2025 11:59

I'd be astounded if transwomen were even as likely to be raped as women, given they are equally size- and strength- matched with their potential aggressors.

How many rapes occur in men's loos? There must be statistics somewhere.

TheKeatingFive · 06/07/2025 12:05

DeanElderberry · 06/07/2025 11:59

I'd be astounded if transwomen were even as likely to be raped as women, given they are equally size- and strength- matched with their potential aggressors.

How many rapes occur in men's loos? There must be statistics somewhere.

There's no evidence that I'm aware of that it's anything like as significant as women's rape statistics.

And even if it was. Why would men, being abused in men's spaces, by other men, be women's problem to solve?

SionnachRuadh · 06/07/2025 12:05

You'd assume there would be stats. Anecdotally, I think victims of sexual assault in men's loos are more likely to be adolescent boys. A grown man attacking a grown man couldn't be confident of not coming off worse.

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