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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Wow. Have you seen all the Pride and Trans flags flying in the audiences at Glastonbury?

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DiamondThrone · 28/06/2025 00:01

No. Neither have I.

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CrackingOn50 · 28/06/2025 17:00

Absentmindedsmile · 28/06/2025 14:19

‘One nurse who raised concerns about the training is now facing disciplinary action.’

I noticed another image like this in an article that used the term 'birth workers'. I've worked in maternity services and infant feeding and never seen this before. The cynical part of me wonders if the rebranding of prostitution as 'sex work' in recent years is connected.
Also abolishing 'maternity' as that is a correct, sex based descriptor of women?

Treatedme · 28/06/2025 17:06

Do you think the Palestine situation has stolen the attention of any wannabe activist? That the young people who want to feel edgy. Be a bit counter cultural and against The Man, and get to wear masks, feel superior, shout a lot and be a bit aggressive have just found their new fickle home in the Palestinian issue?

TheQuickCat · 28/06/2025 17:15

NoWordForFluffy · 28/06/2025 16:47

Adult human female.

Oh that makes much more sense!

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 28/06/2025 17:24

CrackingOn50 · 28/06/2025 17:00

I noticed another image like this in an article that used the term 'birth workers'. I've worked in maternity services and infant feeding and never seen this before. The cynical part of me wonders if the rebranding of prostitution as 'sex work' in recent years is connected.
Also abolishing 'maternity' as that is a correct, sex based descriptor of women?

Pardon me? Birth workers? As in paid surrogates?

Plasticwaste · 28/06/2025 17:27

SuperNovajovic · 28/06/2025 14:39

if it was truly an omnicause i don’t think people would be getting slaughtered in queues for flour tbh

The Glasto queue for organic sourdough going as well as expected, then.

Speaking to the Guardian, the Led By Donkeys collective – Ben Stewart, James Sadri, Oliver Knowles and Will Rose

Ah, the middle-class revolutionaries, Ben, James, Oliver and Will. Posh version of the Inbetweeners.

If I were JKR, I'd have that pic framed and hanging over the mantelpiece. How fabulous 😍

Scissor Sisters will probably try something. They said something stupid and sexist a few weeks ago.

StMarie4me · 28/06/2025 17:29

Does It fill you with joy? This perceived victory for hate? Because that makes you a very sad person.

SidewaysOtter · 28/06/2025 17:30

Treatedme · 28/06/2025 17:06

Do you think the Palestine situation has stolen the attention of any wannabe activist? That the young people who want to feel edgy. Be a bit counter cultural and against The Man, and get to wear masks, feel superior, shout a lot and be a bit aggressive have just found their new fickle home in the Palestinian issue?

Hell yes. It's the latest iteration of the Omnicause.

It blows my mind that they are wafting about in keffiyehs, waving Palestinian flags and openly expressing support for Hamas and setting up groups like "Queers for Palestine"...when not only does Hamas have a shocking human rights record on LGBTQ rights, but Israel is one of the most tolerant LGBTQ-friendly countries.

That they are now "standing with Iran" - a regime that flogs and kills women for showing hair and has the death penalty for same-sex sexual relationships is <head explodes>

SidewaysOtter · 28/06/2025 17:31

StMarie4me · 28/06/2025 17:29

Does It fill you with joy? This perceived victory for hate? Because that makes you a very sad person.

What hate? Citations needed.

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:36

What does it matter what flags people wave at a music festival. Why are you actively looking for certain flags.

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 17:38

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:36

What does it matter what flags people wave at a music festival. Why are you actively looking for certain flags.

It doesn’t matter, but it is a good indicator of the current mood.

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:40

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 17:38

It doesn’t matter, but it is a good indicator of the current mood.

So what does it matter what the current mood is amongst festival goers?

Nimbus3000 · 28/06/2025 17:41

DiamondThrone · 28/06/2025 10:37

Inclusive lot, aren't they?

Speaking to the Guardian, the Led By Donkeys collective – Ben Stewart, James Sadri, Oliver Knowles and Will Rose

All male, all white.

Disappointing but unsurprising - Ben has a trans in-law.

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 17:42

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:40

So what does it matter what the current mood is amongst festival goers?

Well those of us who care about the overreach of trans ideology might find it interesting to see the lie of the land, no?

I don’t watch Glastonbury, a bit too bland for me, but if it’s been wall to wall trans flags in previous years and now not so much, that indicated a change.

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:48

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 17:42

Well those of us who care about the overreach of trans ideology might find it interesting to see the lie of the land, no?

I don’t watch Glastonbury, a bit too bland for me, but if it’s been wall to wall trans flags in previous years and now not so much, that indicated a change.

In what way does trans ideology affect you? Just curious as I've never thought about it

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 17:51

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:48

In what way does trans ideology affect you? Just curious as I've never thought about it

Well it affects me when I don’t have access to single sex changing rooms, toilets, rape crisis services etc. I could go on, but I think you already know.

MarieDeGournay · 28/06/2025 17:52

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:48

In what way does trans ideology affect you? Just curious as I've never thought about it

I suggest you do a bit of reading Eagle2025- there are years and years of posts on here about how exactly trans ideology is affecting women.
But if you've never thought about it, you're unlikely to start now.

May I suggest that we leave Eagle2025 where we found them, and let them get up to speed on the issues by themselves, if they want to?

Meanwhile, enjoy Glasto, Eagle!

CrackingOn50 · 28/06/2025 17:53

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 28/06/2025 17:24

Pardon me? Birth workers? As in paid surrogates?

There was another image/poster aimed at midwives etc that used the term 'birth workers'

DialSquare · 28/06/2025 17:53

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:36

What does it matter what flags people wave at a music festival. Why are you actively looking for certain flags.

What does it matter if people are actively looking for flags at a festival. How does that affect you?

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:56

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 17:51

Well it affects me when I don’t have access to single sex changing rooms, toilets, rape crisis services etc. I could go on, but I think you already know.

Ok I don't have any of those issues where I live. Doesnt even get talked about.

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 17:57

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:56

Ok I don't have any of those issues where I live. Doesnt even get talked about.

Oh, so if it doesn’t affect you, no one should care about it?

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:58

DialSquare · 28/06/2025 17:53

What does it matter if people are actively looking for flags at a festival. How does that affect you?

It's just bizarre to me why it's of any importance. All sorts of different people attend Glastonbury

Sskka · 28/06/2025 18:00

@Eagle2025 How come you’re posting about it?

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 18:00

Exactly so it’s a good cross-section, and if it used to be full of trans flags and now it isn’t, that shows a shift in how people are thinking on the trans issue. Of course, it’s not hugely important. No one said it was.

Screamingabdabz · 28/06/2025 18:02

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:56

Ok I don't have any of those issues where I live. Doesnt even get talked about.

🙄

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 18:05

Sskka · 28/06/2025 18:00

@Eagle2025 How come you’re posting about it?

Posting about what?

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