Wow. Have you seen all the Pride and Trans flags flying in the audiences at Glastonbury?

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No. Neither have I.

Communal changing rooms?

Stop feeding the AI bot

Yes my swimming pool has communal changing where men and women are all in the one space but there are still individual booths with locks.

It’s from the Scottish census. About 0.44% trans as total population but that’s like 1 in 1000 because most older folk arent trans/it’s a younger people’s thing generally. About half of that group are non-binary and the other half splits evenly between trans men and trans women. The figures are tricky but it breaks down to 1 in 70 in the 15-25 range or 1 in 93 in the 15-35 range. So it’s really time that a group of that size are properly catered for instead of being shoe-horned into women’s facilities.

Also to say that you’d just avoid changing room if there were people of the opposite sex in there - NHS Nurse of 30 years Sandie Peggie tried that (also used preferred pronouns & name) and still ended up on a disciplinary/losing her job. Kept off work and in the dark for months. All in our name while the NHS treated her really badly without seeing if what she’d done was true or not. Trans Woman (biological male) Dr Upton said under oath that the only satisfactory response would have been for Sandie to capitulate without complaint and change in the same room. Standing outside and waiting her turn wasn’t acceptable. That’s a pretty unpleasant thought that a new member of staff can turn up at your work and make demands like that - taking away your privacy and dignity and your choice. How would you feel if you’d been in that situation?

On loan from Reddit. There’s been quite a few since the schools/uni finished.

The unisex changing facilities arent quite as great as I first thought. This happened near us: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/70eeb1b81dc332a4

Yes some people are utter arseholes. I wouldnt want to get changed in front of a work colleague, I'd wish to have a lockable space.

Even at my gym where it's an all female changing room I still use the lockable areas and the showers with doors as opposed to the open ones.

BTW, just spotted my first Glasto troon flag...

...during Pulp's Common People.

You couldn't make it up 😂

Yes there are some perverts in this world. There was a man where I live found guilty of fitting a recording device in the womens toilets at his workplace.

Not all from Canada. No 9 was a sex offender that escaped from prison in Yorkshire and who the Derby Telegraph reported being on the loose and citizens of Derbyshire were to look out for a 'woman who might be dressed as a man'.

You’d be out of luck in the NHS. On another thread we are auditing the single sex policies for staff and patients. So far we’ve not identified any protected single sex spaces. And in some trusts patients would have their treatment withdrawn if they said they’d rather not have a male in the bed next to them or using the women’s toilets. Especially when the NHS publicly promise single sex wards…. I had no clue until February. I still can’t get my head around someone losing their job for not wanting a male in the ladies changing room (nhs staff have open plan facilities)

I can't cope with 6 music any more. It was a good thing for a while but I think I've aged out if the bracket, what with being a grown up.

Yes what kind of a prick would you need to be to make such a fuss that someone lost their job! I've had fallings out with someone at work once but it didnt go any higher, it was just between the two of us and eventually resolved itself.

Yes! Can you imagine if your colleague had claimed you’d committed a hate incident and got you fired? For simply saying the words “you shouldn’t be in here - you’re a man” to them in the women’s changing room!?

There's a lot less Pride stuff around generally - been quite noticeable where I live.

Yep I cant imagine he is well liked.

That would be an ecumenical matter.

i dont think its possible to oversimplify a genocide. maybe this person says it better than me

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/25/queer-palestinian-identity-gaza-rights

You might perhaps have heard of miscarriages of justice. They do happen from time to time. But even the women who have committed the crimes they've been convicted of deserve to be given humane conditions in prison. It's not supposed to be a hellhole that turns criminals into even more damaged and dysfunctional people than they were before they went in.

Spotted this watching Alanis Morrisette today at Glastonbury on BBC

I think it’s so weird that the vast vast vast majority of people seeing that flag won’t have any inkling that it’s remotely controversial.

And yet we watch - fearful for the safety of the woman flying it. And know that KJK’s been called a Nazi and had death threats for designing it.

Strange times

Yes I have heard of miscarriages of justice. So now we are down to the thinnest hair of both a trans man being in a womans prison and him then attacking a wrongfully accused woman.

You've been told this before, but a 'trans man' is a woman (as in a woman who identifies as a man).

Ok sorry trans woman! What about male trans does that work?

I'm not just concerned about a trans-identified male attacking women in prison, I'm also concerned that women prisoners shouldn't be sharing accommodation with males. Even if there is no attack, most such males are not gay so there's the risk of voyeurism. Also, female prison staff shouldn't be expected to strip search or pat down male prisoners, regardless of how the male identifies. I'd also like to be reassured that there are no male prison staff identifying as female being given the green light to pat down and strip search female inmates.

All so needlessly complicated. We used to have this sorted.