Should trans people have fewer rights? ‘Not in our name’, say over 35,000 women

[BeeSouriante]

https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/society/should-trans-people-have-fewer-rights-not-in-our-name-say-over-35000-women/

Actually 36,000 now. Heartening to see in these horrible times. It's always wonderful when you see people come out to stand in solidarity against the manufactured anti-trans panic.

Personally i think MNHQ should delete every thread started by posters who have a track record of starting goady plop threads and not returning

starting these threads is absolutely and completely not in the spirit of mumsnet

Hard agree.

Are supposed to keep ‘playing nice’, like this nonsense is a game of two halves? I think MNHQ need to have a more serious look at this man and his occasional tag-team.

I expect at least 80% of the "women" signing that petition are actually male.

Trouble is that then feeds into the narrative that people are being censored,

Either delete with a meaningful message as to why, or keep it and add a sort of official MN warning after the post. Something like "Before replying MNers should be aware that this poster's style tends to broadcast only so they are unlikely to engage meaningfully with any subsequent discussion".

(In the interests of balance I'm happy to carry a warning myself "this poster tends to be verbose and not let go")

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exactly autumn

and by any thread i mean any….want to ask what sofa you should go for? Tough fucking tits DELETED

Yeah i see your point flirts

but those types of posters lie about be censured and idiots believe them 🤷🏻 so its lose lose for us

and plop plop for them

That's an important distinction, and very succinctly put.

Oh god. Prepare to be crucified

You know that could sound like a threat from you dead pan!

Crucified, : put (someone) to death by nailing or binding them to a cross.

Well said.

Presumably those women are the same kind of woman as the author Jennie Kermode... as in no kind if woman at all!

I expect the OP is following the advice in this Reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/kAQBJn2yFu

Yep. Astroturfing.

More like fluttered off

Well, having now read that Yorkshire Bylines piece, I'm more than happy for the link to be disseminated. It's a classic "Look how awful they are!" piece which most people would read and think "I dunno, it seems reasonable to me?".

Astroturf away, Buzzy Bee!

He's not going to.

He was asked umpteen times on the Drs vote for "identity based care" what rights transwomen had lost and couldn't name one

Yes, given that people like Bee don't seem to care what they say, how they say it, or how bad they look, I'm sometimes rather surprised that they don't just say well we want the right to enter your spaces, even, or especially when, you don't consent.

being hung for a sheep as a lamb, and all that.

One of the comments says the Yorkshire Bylines article is a Fantastic well researched article.
Never was the absence of -ly more appropriate - it is indeed full of fantasy.

Re banning 'ploppers' - it feels like playing into their hands, poor marginalised censored people that they are🙄
If they are doing it for screenshots of how toxic we are, that's not working out very well for them.

On another thread FeistyCat wrote something I really liked:

I am more than proud to have my posts in your screenshots. Why? Because I have not posted anything anti-trans. Only pro-women. The same as everyone else on this thread. And I wager that all the rest of the women on this thread feel the same way, and feel no shame in anything they posted and would be proud to be in your screenshots. So..... what is it exactly that you think you achieved, other than women explaining to you why women need our hard won human rights? You came away empty-handed.

Well said, FeistyCat, I think it was worth repeating here

Is my (google) translation correct and the OP adopted the name of ‘smiling bee’?
Can a bee smile?

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Cripes

Thats fucking scary 😳

can a bee smile?

no…that would be a no

i don't but given that (cisgender) women are generally less fussed about trans people than men, it's not exactly surprising that 36,000 signed.

For reference, 36K is around 150x the biggest anti-trans rally