Simone Biles attacks Riley Gaines

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Simone Biles has come out in defence of males in women's sports, and has attacked Riley Gaines for fighting against it. She said on Twitter:

"@RileyGaines
You’re truly sick, all of this campaigning because you lost a race. Straight up sore loser. You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive OR creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports. Maybe a transgender category IN ALL sports!! But instead… You bully them… One things for sure is no one in sports is safe with you around!!!!!"

So, so disappointing. Both my daughters do gymnastics and are huge SB fans, so it is awful for her to show such contempt towards RG, who is fighting for a level playing field for women and girls in sport. And to suggest a separate category as if nobody has ever thought of that and tried it 🤦🏻‍♀️

The issue of male encroachment and colonisation of female spaces cuts across many areas. It is not confined to sports.

The whole premise of gender ideology is to demolish boundaries and suggest that people can be be whatever they want. That truth is not fixed and can be manipulated through language. That sex is not real. It will always be the most privileged and powerful who take advantage of this to shape reality in a way that suits them. It is not female people that are clamouring to get into male spaces and sports...it is male people who are most insistent on encroaching on female space and utilising it to fulfil their desires.

I wonder how they decided if it would be RG or her husband who carried and birthed the baby?

Oh no wait I think I know this one.

Pride isn't really a movement about sexuality as such, and I don't think it has been for a long time. It's more like a politically partisan movement where you are expected to share quite a lot of political ideas.

It's also in the main a kind of public sex festival.

Many gay and lesbian people no longer feel related to it. And plenty never really did, there are lots of gay men and lesbian women who are actually pretty conservative. Pride has zero time for those people.

In my town, and this is not that uncommon, one of the biggest political things the Pride group have pushed for in recent years is opposing books they don't like in the public library.

That's before you get to people who object to the corporatism, people who just want shops and businesses to sell stuff without political posturing, or people who just feel the time and money spent on it is far far out of proportion to other causes.

Congrats to Riley and her husband! I hope she has a healthy and safe pregnancy 🎉

I know I know, it's because they are far-right transphobes and think only females should have babies.

Congrats to both parents (and offspring), lovely for them all.

Good piece by Oliver Brown in todays Telegraph on Ms Biles

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/swimming/2025/06/21/simone-biles-trans-activist-reputation-riley-gaines-women/

An archive link for the above article

https://archive.ph/vBOBv

This is the only clip I could find of Biles trying to emulate Fred Graham

https://youtube.com/shorts/0XoNQVR5QQs?si=eYhYIxRNoT9PTpcN

It's at the end of the short. She seemed a good sport and I think, with practice, she'd do much better. Still left for dust though.

Something else about this that I've been thinking about... should Gaines have drawn attention to a particular teen athlete? Otoh I think this boy knows perfectly well they are not a girl & is causing danger & humiliation w this ridiculous masquerade.

Otoh trans teens do tend to have poor mental health, in large part due to their supposed TRA champions. Drawing attention to the boy has left him open to trolling. There was a v unpleasant incident where a transgirl posted about their mental health & then jumped off a bridge, & many comments celebrated this.

Is it justified for a GC to draw attention to a teen in that way? Is it emotional blackmail to say it could cause harm? I don't have an answer myself, I'm just thinking about it..

Hmm..that's interesting. What books do they oppose?

So should women never draw attention to anything lest a male use suicide as a weapon to silence us? You realise males using suicide (which often happens when women are about to leave them, too) as a weapon to control, to manipulate and to silence women is as old as time? You are suggesting we give in to that. No fucking way! Threatening to suicide is the dirtiest oldest trick in the book. If a male does actually go through with it (which is rare) then he had a LOT more issues than women and girls merely pointing out he was doing the wrong thing.

And our rights to speak up and defend our rights and importantly CALL OUT male cheating (in sport or in relationships) and abuse should not have the threat of the aggressor threatening suicide hanging over our heads.

How do you draw attention to the issue without evidencing the athletes who are competing unethically?

This is like the poster recently who believed that Semenya and Banda should never have been mentioned by people. Because in doing so, it brought scrutiny to that person which was not allowing them, marginalised people that they are, to live peacefully.

All while ignoring the unethical decision those male athletes deliberately made when they entered a female sporting event.

If anyone posted articles or opinion about a current happening competition discussing that there are male people in the female events, without naming any athlete, I suspect that quickly the athlete would be named in any case. If by some miracle, none are named in media, that athlete will certainly know it is them that is being referred to.

When people use this emotionally manipulative reasoning, eg we have to not make the athlete’s life harder therefore we should not be naming them, they effectively silence those who are bringing up timely discussions. It reduces the clarity and thus the power of the discussion. Yet people who use these emotionally manipulative reasons also have this perception that issues will be addressed with speed and focus if the discussion remains obfuscated and indirect. Which is a very weak position to be in. I disagree that changes will be driven by discussions that remain ambiguous. In which universe will that happen ?

These teens are already in the spotlight.

It is not like the UK where sports don't get a lot of air time unless they are competing at a "professional"/international level.

These races are, in many cases state or national championships and will in some cases be televised but in all cases reported on by local, national papers and the specialist magazines.

So the names are already out there.

Another difference to the UK is that these races are not just for the sport, although you will here things like 'future Olympian' etc. but these are a gateway to college/university, sponsorships and how many young women get out of poverty by accessing education, building support groups and leading to well paid jobs (Gaines was going to be a dentist).

I agree w this, my thought aren't fully sorted out but I def think emotional blackmail mustn't be yielded to. I would definitely not have made that argument about Semenya bc they're an adult. This boy is 17 tho which is nearly adult ..

Damn, I'd forgotten about the whole scholarship issue. Tbf I think there's a lot of ethical issues w the whole US college system of scholarships but it's disgusting that poorer women are being shut out in this way from an already elitist system.

Chase Strangio - who is a trans man. i.e. a biological woman, and an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union - called for circulation of Abigail Shrier's "Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters" to be stopped, announcing that stopping the circulation of the book and its ideas was, "100% a hill I will die on". She later deleted the tweet and claimed she wasn't calling for a ban but instead wanted to create a climate for the market to be more supportive of trans self-determination. Which sounds like a reverse ferret to me.

It's not the only example. I've heard of libraries and bookshops in the UK not stocking books they see as problematic, such as Joyce's "Trans" or Stock's "Material Girls".

Despicable. I l've also heard of Huckleberry Finn & To Kill A Mockingbird being challenged due to their having the n word. Again v unhelpful.

Something else I thought....let's be honest here. Lia is a well-built man. I seriously don't see how 4 women could have swum faster & Riley tied. Surely if Lia were swimming at full strength they would have come first easily? Did Lia lose on purpose so TRAs can argue that there was no negative effect?

Didn't similar appear to happen w Laurel Hubbard (I think) losing at the Olympics?

The more I think about it, the angrier I am. These 'losses' are a ploy to ensure many women will have unfair losses if thry get their way.

It could have been what happened.

Or... Thomas is a mediocre athlete and did not win because he is not an exceptional athlete as the female athletes he was competing against were. You are quite correct, if Thomas was in anyway as fit for competition as those women were, Thomas would have won. Because that is how the sexes compared if you know what I mean.

ie. if a male athlete was at their peak fitness and well trained as hard and had the same skill level their physical advantage would be very clear to see.

However, if a male athlete is not at that same level of competition fitness, they may or may not win. The argument is that these male competitors claim that they are effectively operating at a reduced performance while being their true sex (ie. they say they are female) and so they effectively are claiming a therapeutic exemption for their medication in a way.

But when you strip away the misinformation, that accommodation is only based on philosophical belief. These athletes are treated to additional privileges because of their philosophical beliefs where no other group gets this special consideration.

If any other athlete chooses to have elective treatment that lowers their performance, they don't get this special consideration if it is not for a disability. They just have to keep competing in their sex category and accept the lowered performance.

Whichever way you look at this, there are discrimination issues where this group is being treated in ways that discriminates against other groups too, not just female people.

I asked grok. Apparently Thomas swam one and a half seconds off his personal best during the race, so wasn't swimming at his peak, but he finished two seconds behind the winner.

Thomas swam in several different races/events and was at one point the women's number one NCAA swimmer.
The different times will be because of his specialisms.
Thomas is also recorded as having said that he didn't have to train as hard to be as competitive in the women's category.
He also beat the other competitors by a pool length and a half in the 500metres freestyle. It was this hubris that peaked al lot of Americans.
This from a male swimmer ranked 462nd.

As for Laurel Hubbard he was a 43 yr old male competing against women half their age that had previously had what would have been a career ending injury for any top lifter if they were competing in the category of their own sex.

I also believe that they bottled it during the Olympics as being the first transwoman to compete was their actual goal.

Ironically Laurel failed all three lifts because they failed to register a valid snatch.

You also only have to look at the other male "athletes" that are competing as women to see that they were never competitive in their own sex, the only one that I can remember is Emily Bridges who was cycling in the male teams until they transferred to the female races and I am sure that there were some cross over between the two. They were also dropped from the male first team (i think) due to injury).

It is not unusual for male people to ignore that they most definitely have an advantage when they are competing at an age that no female person is there competing in that comp.

It is like that rugby player Miller in Australia who is in his 50’s, and ex elite athlete but cannot understand that no female people are playing rugby in the same competition at an age anywhere close to him.

Like Hubbard.

These male athletes get incensed when it is pointed out to them. When people say ‘no mate! No women is anywhere near your age in this competition. That in itself is evidence that you have advantage!’

It is like a clearly very heavily unfit Ivy/mckinnon who wins races against fitter female competitors. It is very clear when you see it, but we are told we shouldn’t be noticing.

https://x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1514210644349919232?s=46

Ironically Laurel failed all three lifts because they failed to register a valid snatch.

Ain't that the truth 😂😂😂😂😂

That GetDressedYouMerryGents was a classic.