Simone Biles attacks Riley Gaines

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Simone Biles has come out in defence of males in women's sports, and has attacked Riley Gaines for fighting against it. She said on Twitter:

"@RileyGaines
You’re truly sick, all of this campaigning because you lost a race. Straight up sore loser. You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive OR creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports. Maybe a transgender category IN ALL sports!! But instead… You bully them… One things for sure is no one in sports is safe with you around!!!!!"

So, so disappointing. Both my daughters do gymnastics and are huge SB fans, so it is awful for her to show such contempt towards RG, who is fighting for a level playing field for women and girls in sport. And to suggest a separate category as if nobody has ever thought of that and tried it 🤦🏻‍♀️

It looks like a drawing of Simone Biles pulling a ladder up behind her.

I agree that without the face we are reliant on context to know who it is, but that's because human faces are generally more recognisable than any other part of us.

You don't seem to have answered the question about whether it should've shown her not being the size that lots of little girls are, even though she isn't? It's important you clarify this, because if you think there shouldn't be accurate portrayal of something that a person has been taunted for, that's got pretty radical implications for depicting any woman who's ever been subjected to sexist abuse, for example. Like Simone.

Um, NO. It is not 'anti-trans' activism. I think you've exposed your agenda, here. WOMENS RIGHTS is not 'anti-trans'. Unless you are admitting to us what we all know; pro-trans activism is anti-women.

The topic is womens rights. Not 'anti-trans'.

And not just conservative but 'ultra' conservative? Wow. That's exaggeration don't you think. I haven't seen anything from her that is "ultra" conservative. It seems your view is perhaps skewed by ultra left extremism?

Of course it makes it different. You were lying when you said she tweeted it.

Exactly. 'anti-trans'? Oh ffs! I think that poster has exposed their agenda on here. And not just conservative but 'ultra' conservative! Oh my! 🙄

Of course it's possible. That's why handmaidens exist. There are always women with internalised misogyny on their knees for men. Unfortunately many women really truly hate their own sex.

Then why call Gaines "anti-trans" then?

Can you quote where she has been so-called "anti-trans"? Defending fair and safe sport for women and girls doesn't count, btw.

So then that by your own words makes you 'anti-trans' and not just conservative, but an 'ultra'-conservative.

Do explain. A person sees a tweet she agrees with and retweets it; it appears on her timeline. This indicates a tacit agreement with the tweet (unless an accompanying comment suggests otherwise).

I’m interested to hear in the alleged differences.

No. To quote FWR regulars, I can hold many views at the one time as I’m not aggressively tribal.

However, Riley Gaines has made it clear where she sits on the spectrum. She was even pictured on stage with Trump in one of those evangelical praying and group touching-of-the-leader sessions.

Oh, soz. The wrong terminology for you? And you think it exposes … agendas? Go outside.

Yes. At every step of the way in history, womens rights were achieved by a tiny minority of women against the overwhelming majority of handmaidens. It was always ever thus. Not just the right to vote, but the overwhelming majority of women didn't believe women should be able to drink in public bars, and should stay in the lounges and saloons. The vast amount of women felt it was 'vulgar' to drink in a public bar. Now women drink in public bars and if you told women today that their ancestors thought they shouldn't, they'd find it strange. Same with no fault divorce and having our own bank accounts. The overwhelming majority of women were against both, oddly enough.

Unfortunately the majority of women are handmaidens that stymy the efforts of feminists to progress our rights. The JessaWoos are in the majority as far as actively working against womens rights, sadly. Never underestimate the need to uphold the patriarchy. I think JK said it best; "The most comfortable place for women to stand has always been where there's most male approval. Such women sell out other women for their own benefit, then point to their personal success as a great feminist triumph."
It's a form of stockholm syndrome. Appease the men so you're not a victim. It doesn't make them on the right side of history though. They are on the wrong side of history, as all handmaidens have always been. So we should remember that when some say we feminists are 'on the wrong side of history'. It's actually them that are.

Yes, it does. It's clear you're anti-feminists. Or at least anti the 'wrong' type of feminist ie those on the political right.

If not, please explain what is 'anti-trans' about the female sex class having fair and safe sports? Explain your 'anti-trans' comment then? What's that about?

My confusion on this thread continues to multiply.

So Riley is 'anti-trans'. But @JessaWoo said upthread she agrees with her on men in women's sport, so does that not make @JessaWoo anti-trans also?

This is where the term anti-trans gets overplayed. Because it is used as a moralist judgement to silence people. It is usually a mischaracterisation though. And if people are agreeing with even some of the points that the person they are name calling anti-trans, then I am not sure how that label doesn’t apply to them.

We have seen this regularly enough to call it common. I would generally assume it is done to show a wish to be seen as the opposite. Yet this is dishonest if there someone then says, I agree with aspects of the person’s argument.

I now consider that quite often those accusations are akin to those we heard in the court cases. The activists saying women can have any thought they want. But there is no way to articulate that they want single sex provisions to be single sex without being transphobic. Only here it is ‘anti-trans’.

Because of the way the term has been used by some people, the logic really is that ‘anti-trans’ = ‘anti-women and girls’. So many activists use the term, obviously as an alternative to transphobic since that word has lost meaning too, that it comes across as lazy mischaracterisation most often.

There are anti-trans people out there, but feminists defending female sport and other single sex provisions doesn’t make them anti-trans. It does make them pro-woman and girls though.

No, I’m not anti-trans. For clarity, I do not want men in female sports or spaces. However, I’m not into vilification of others, particularly minors.

RG doesn’t keep it to sports.

https://x.com/riley_gaines_/status/1928177655460806863?s=61&t=3wYru9P_J0h74BXKFXAfmw

Your summary here is so incorrect it’s amusing. I appreciate your time though.

I don't get the point here. You think that tweet is very objectionable? Why?

If you don't want men in women's spaces or sports, then the pride movement has not been on your side.

Very disappointed in SB, she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer is she? She's now backtracked.

Pride, as a political and symbolic movement has become synonymous with advocating for the inclusion of men and boys in women’s and girls’ sports. It’s not all it does, but it does it. Therefore, RG has every right to express her relief that this movement is losing its grip on corporate money and influence. Sports and the athletes depend on sponsorship from these companies to survive. One of the reasons many sportswomen have been silenced on this issue and forced to smile along while men and boys take their medals and prize money, is that they have risked losing future sponsorship for them or their federations. Pride movements have been major players in this. So anyone who supports keeping women’s sports for women only but also supports Pride, should be appealing to the movement to stop undermining the female category with ‘inclusion’ (of men and boys) rhetoric. Or, they should accept that for now - ‘Pride’ means women and girls lose their fair and safe sporting arenas.

What's your point?

Many gay people and lesbians also disagree with what Pride has become.

I can't think of any other tiny, defenceless, oppressed, marginalised minorities with no political power which have the world's biggest corporations change the colour of their logos for a full month every year to express support for them.

Let's be clear, the LGBTQ+ lobby is astonishingly powerful, which is why the entire establishment is awash with rainbows every June, and also why the female half of the population have been repeatedly thrown under a bus to accommodate the whims of male people who claim to be women. An actual oppressed minority struggles to even obtain equal rights; they certainly don't manage to trample all over the rights of other, majority groups.

How is it incorrect? Explain? In what way?

None of us are into the vilification of others. And 17 years old is hardly a minor.

RG doesn’t keep it to sports.

Did we say she does? She campaigns against agendas that harms women and girls.

“Shoutout to the people & companies who knew the concept of "pride" was the biggest marketing ploy of all time from its inception.”

Blimey.

So Riley Gaines has another ‘sin’ in that she doesn’t support Pride and has repeated something that many LGB people have been also saying. I guess she is in the company of Julie Bindel with this new accusation. Just another woman who is also campaigning for the protection of women’s rights….

You couldn’t make this up.

Loving Sharon Davies’ response!

Riley has just announced she is 26 weeks pregnant. https://www.foxnews.com/sports/riley-gaines-riley-gaines-louis-barker-announce-pregnancy-god-is-good?intcmp=tw_fnc&taid=684e337b86eaf50001e090ba&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter