Simone Biles attacks Riley Gaines

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Simone Biles has come out in defence of males in women's sports, and has attacked Riley Gaines for fighting against it. She said on Twitter:

"@RileyGaines
You’re truly sick, all of this campaigning because you lost a race. Straight up sore loser. You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive OR creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports. Maybe a transgender category IN ALL sports!! But instead… You bully them… One things for sure is no one in sports is safe with you around!!!!!"

So, so disappointing. Both my daughters do gymnastics and are huge SB fans, so it is awful for her to show such contempt towards RG, who is fighting for a level playing field for women and girls in sport. And to suggest a separate category as if nobody has ever thought of that and tried it 🤦🏻‍♀️

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Everything you said here is false.

Conservatives are against surrogacy and liberals are all for it. California and New York are the most surrogate friendly states in the US. The “saving an embryo” thing isn’t an argument you see here either, lol. In fact, the only states with laws severely restricting surrogacy are red states.Those would be:

• Indiana
• Kansas
• Kentucky
• Louisiana
• Nebraska
• Oklahoma
• Texas

Also, conservatives are normal fathers and grandfathers, and can be seen in the wild proudly cheering their daughters on in sports competitions just like every other parent. It’s just not true that they think sports are unbecoming for girls and women.

How can it be construed that because conservatives are doing everything in their power to SAVE women’s and girl’s sports it really means they want to ban women’s and girl’s sports? The long game is by banning transwomen in women’s sports, this somehow means they really want women’s teams to be ALL transwomen, so their delicate daughters are spared from the evil foosball?

Nobody wants to ban sports or voting, I promise.

I said "some" Conservatives dont want women to play sport / disagree with IVF and see surrogacy as a solution and this is absolutely true. Many of these people think women shouldn't vote either. There is a trad wife movement in the US too. We dont have much of this here in the UK. But I see it regularly on X from Americans. It may be small but it's definitely a thing.

Ahh so because a small number of Conservative Americans are ultra pro life we should allow the definition of woman to disappear in Britain?

We can agree with people on one aspect policy whilst disagreeing with them on others.

It will be much hard to push back on the erosion of women's rights without a coherent definition of 'women' (or indeed rights which seems to have become code for 'wants').

Im sorry, I don't see where I have said anything like that. I am fully gender critical. I was originally talking about Simone Biles putting "wife" in her profile on X as the first description and saying how we are different in the UK. I was saying that we dont always get the nuances in the US and I gave some examples.

I read a lot of conservative US stuff of varying stripes, & while some of the less centrist positions I often disagree w, I have never seen a conservative of any stripe advocate surrogacy (apart from that creepy would-be immortal Peter Thiel, who runs the conservative women's magazine Evie. He doesn't advocate it there, actually the magazine is opposed to it. But he did it himself..)
I read a variety of Substacks & a lot of conservatives there mock women's sport & talk about how boring & pointless it is. But no one talks about banning it.

“ I have never seen a conservative of any stripe advocate surrogacy”

Elon Musk?

Musk is generally a libertarian not a conservative. This does stop him from also being sexist and believing in reality though.

People seem to get confused between conservatives and people who like Trump. There are three separate political groups that support Trump - the blue collar workers who may be disenfranchised from the Democrats and hark back to previous eras in American history when 'life was better' - which basically means they had jobs and were economically secure but they can be regressive with it, the Christian right conservatives and the economic libertarians who general think everything should be for sale and no one should be taxed (because they are all Uber Rich) and often can actually be fairly liberal.

One of the issues thats Trump has is there's conflict points in the interests of these three groups - Tariffs showed this up with the blue collar base wanting to restrict immigration and imports but Musk being in the third group wants immigration because it makes him money. Hence Musk throwing a big wobbler over it.

It wasn't unexpected to anyone who understood that balancing the demands of all these groups was always going to be problematic and Trump had been very upfront about it before the election but Musk just seemed to ignore it as an issue until Trump actually did it.

This is an interesting read, about how some people regard embryos in the US https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-arguments-that-embryos-are-people-pose-a-threat-to-ivf/

How is transhumanism socially conservative? I'm not sure if he's economically conservative either.

I wouldn't really consider Musk or any of those big tech business guys conservative.

However, I do think there is a sense in which the US is traditionally a capitalist, pro-business, pro-freedom nation, and as such, commitment to those things can be seen as "conservative". It's conservative within the American political tradition - there was never really anything like a land based aristocracy at the top of a pyramid of separate, but symbiotic, social classes, mainly deriving their wealth from, and rooting their identity in, land. (Or, there was a little bit in the South, but then they were Democrats...)

I did read a weird Substack once by a conservative Christian ex-counsellor, which mixed sensible suggestions w out-there fantasies about the US being divided into tiny self-governing towns so no-one would argue )tbh it didn't seem to be a fantasy to him, he'd written a book seriously arguing for this form of government)

One wish for his kind of town was for no woman to do professional sports after high school age. A lot of people were commenting to agree, but tbf you get a lot of weird views on Substack, and most conservatives & Christians wouldn't agree w that.

I did read a weird Substack once by a conservative Christian ex-counsellor, which mixed sensible suggestions w out-there fantasies about the US being divided into tiny self-governing towns so no-one would argue )tbh it didn't seem to be a fantasy to him, he'd written a book seriously arguing for this form of government)

One wish for his kind of town was for no woman to do professional sports after high school age. A lot of people were commenting to agree, but tbf you get a lot of weird views on Substack, and most conservatives & Christians wouldn't agree w that.

Several right-wing podcasters I've listened to have commented that Republican defence of women's sports seems a lot more about supporting biological sex definition rather than caring much about women's sports otherwise, & I think that's definitely somewhat true. Few, including Trump, advocate for funding or support for women's sports otherwise, and as I've said, many mock them (OK leftists mock them too, but it's more prevalent on the right)

Obvs the tip issue rn is defining what woman is (!) and it's enough that at least some people have seen the light, that should be the main focus obvs

It seems as if self identified progressives are also embracing some of that 'trad wife' stuff. Look at Meghan Markle's recent re-invention of herself as a wholesome homemaker.

Personally i suspect this movement is rooted in a realisation that full throttle feminism has not really delivered the liberation or contentment that it was supposed to.

Tbf I agree w one right wing US (& UK) critics of women's sport on one thing : it's hypocritical to criticise men for not watching WNBA, tennis etc & call for higher pay when they don't watch it enough themselves.

Megan's hardly a "homemaker' 😂 she's selling a vision of a life whereas she irl has chefs etc. Just like a lot of 'tradwives' are in reality influencers who monetise their life rather than simply doing domestic tasks. There's more than a few who were onlyfans content creators & then pivoted to tradwife stuff(often done in a sexy way). There's nothing traditional about making money from showing your life (and often unconsenting children) to the world via Insta.

Yes, i know....but she's happy to ride the wave. A lot of 'self love', 'Healing'/Wellness' stuff feeds into wholesome home-maker narratives too

Isn't that the plot to 'Hot Fuzz'?

I agree.

To be clear, I completely support women who want to be SAHMs. Full-time childrearing is still denigrate as stupid etc by men & women all too often. SAHMs obvs can also contribute via voluntary work.

In US especially there's an understandable reaction in both genders to the millennial hustle culture, & people are thinking more about a slower way of life doing things they genuinely value, rather than just do for money.

I'm ambitious for my career but I know myself that I'd like to stay at home for the preschool years.

What I dislike are the tradwife influencers who talk about submitting/obeying their husband, denigrate women who want to work, and are just downright kooky sometimes (paleo diet etc). Plus I disagree full stop w monetising your kids' lives online, tho that's obvs not unique to tradwives.

Several right-wing podcasters I've listened to have commented that Republican defence of women's sports seems a lot more about supporting biological sex definition rather than caring much about women's sports otherwise

Having clear biological sex boundaries prevents the possibility of people accidentally appearing gay which is something that US conservatives want to avoid judging by social media.

Is it? Not seen that film, but reading the Wiki synopsis it does mention a model village.

I think my larger point is that this trad wife movement is not just something that has emerged from the right of politics and society. It is a circulating theme in contemporary society, more generally, but which has found more ease of expression on the religious right.

It's like clothing fashion.......Fashion picks up on symbols emerging from the collective and gives shape to them. I recall a few years ago there was a fashion for what i would call 'Little House on the Prairie' dresses. They were long and floral with frilly bits here and there...very 1950s Americana and very 'feminine' Women of all backgrounds seemed to be wearing them. They may just be fashion items, but in taking them up and/or wearing them enables people to express different aspects of themselves, and try on different roles.

The New York Times has an article on Riley

https://archive.ph/GsLeg

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/27/us/riley-gaines-trans-athletes.html

The journalist could be worse but her partisanship is obvious. The first paragraph about the race where Riley tied for fifth with that bloke...whatsisname...Liar? is laughable

With caps covering their hair, goggles over their eyes, and sleek suits down to their knees, the eight swimmers on the pool deck looked indistinguishable from one another.

Indistinguishable? Except one was well over 6ft tall and a man.