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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jolyon Maugham says his wife was targeted in changing room

209 replies

BobLobla · 22/05/2025 09:35

On Bluesky yesterday. Sorry if there’s already a thread but I couldn’t see one. The replies would indicate this is a common thing. Really?

Jolyon Maugham says his wife was targeted in changing room
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OvaHere · 22/05/2025 13:23

Gosh what are the chances of this happening to JM's wife of all people?

The same JM who is raising hundreds of thousands to challenge the SC judgment. You couldn't make this up!

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2025 13:25

Datun · 22/05/2025 12:44

Oh my God. How did this man even pass an exam.

And how could he not have matured beyond the Just William school of lying to prove a point.

This ideology addles the brain. Between him and India Willoughby, the descent is really shocking.

I'm forced to conclude that the profound sexism that leads people to believe in it also massively affects other parts of their psyche.

I can't think of a single proponent of transgenderism who doesn't come across as unhinged. Not one.

Edited

You assume he believes this and isn't merely a grifter...

yourhairiswinterfire · 22/05/2025 13:25

It's extraordinary that not only do they not know what women are talking about, they've actually got it backwards!

The result of blocking loads of women they've never even communicated with so they don't have to risk seeing something that challenges their precious ideology.

TheCatsTongue · 22/05/2025 13:26

Thingybob · 22/05/2025 11:49

Given his personal circumstances, I can't understand why Jolyon spends so much time fighting for transwomen to access women's single sex facilities. Why isn't his focus on the young female NB and trans masc cohort who surely need to use either female spaces or gender neutral ones.

Follow the money.

His grifting campaigns raise money from the angry men on trans reddit. They're not interested in any biological women, except when they can be used as a human shield.

tobee · 22/05/2025 13:28

teawamutu · 22/05/2025 09:38

I wouldn't trust him to tell me the time.

I love that pie chart!

TheHereticalOne · 22/05/2025 13:31

I think you're all horrible meanies to suggest that this didn't happen.

Speaking as someone who identifies as having a bridge to sell, I am much more interested in hearing from those who believe it did...

MyPresumablyScrotum · 22/05/2025 13:34

I see she has also been dishonest on her Twitter account saying "gender criticals think women must have and not have certain body parts"

No, that's what the Maughams think.

Datun · 22/05/2025 13:42

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2025 13:25

You assume he believes this and isn't merely a grifter...

I think he's both.

Otherwise it would be too monstrous to sacrifice your wife and children for the sake of grifting.

He needs to make a living, and this fits in with his sexist ideology and mindset, so he's just married the two together.

And the paranoia and persecution complex that appears to kick in like clockwork for transactivists looks like it's already underway.

He can't claim victimhood for himself, because he's not trans, but he's claiming it for his wife. Even going so far as to claim it's vigilantes!

pound to a penny her withdrawal from Twitter will be laid at the door of gender critical feminists

More persecution and paranoia on the way...

LesserCelandine · 22/05/2025 13:52

Once you have supported your children to harms themselves, in the name of gender ideology, you have to keep believing or face up to what you have done to your children.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 22/05/2025 13:54

Datun · 22/05/2025 13:42

I think he's both.

Otherwise it would be too monstrous to sacrifice your wife and children for the sake of grifting.

He needs to make a living, and this fits in with his sexist ideology and mindset, so he's just married the two together.

And the paranoia and persecution complex that appears to kick in like clockwork for transactivists looks like it's already underway.

He can't claim victimhood for himself, because he's not trans, but he's claiming it for his wife. Even going so far as to claim it's vigilantes!

pound to a penny her withdrawal from Twitter will be laid at the door of gender critical feminists

More persecution and paranoia on the way...

If you think about it the Maugham’s are stuck in an endless cycle now, because they’re both so entrenched with this ideology by transing two of their children, how can either one of them say to the other ‘enough, this is too far’, because they’ve already gone too far haven’t they?

You can’t possibly row back from where they’ve put not only themselves, but their children. They can’t ever say to those two children that they got it wrong, what we’ve put you through is a total abdication of our parental responsibility. As Helen Joyce says, this will never end for these people or their children, they have set this pattern for life, and it’s just appalling.

Datun · 22/05/2025 14:01

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 22/05/2025 13:54

If you think about it the Maugham’s are stuck in an endless cycle now, because they’re both so entrenched with this ideology by transing two of their children, how can either one of them say to the other ‘enough, this is too far’, because they’ve already gone too far haven’t they?

You can’t possibly row back from where they’ve put not only themselves, but their children. They can’t ever say to those two children that they got it wrong, what we’ve put you through is a total abdication of our parental responsibility. As Helen Joyce says, this will never end for these people or their children, they have set this pattern for life, and it’s just appalling.

I completely agree. And now he's tied it in with his livelihood, too.

The pushback from the public, the clarification of laws, the withdrawal of dangerous medication, all of it helps with grifting, but only up to a point. With little to no success, people will stop donating.

But it doesn't help if your family are tied up in it.

I can just see him in the appalling situation of having to keep going, with the children becoming more emeshed while he earns less and less because of it.

See Jazz Jennings

BettyEagleton · 22/05/2025 14:04

I saw a man in the women’s toilet the other day. It was at an event in an old manor house. The toilets were marked male and female but they weren’t near each other. He was an actual man, with a beard, dressed as a man, presenting as a man.

I was washing my hands when he came out of the cubicle. I am 50-something and not shy. In fact, I was actually speaking at the event.

Here’s what I did: I smiled at him. Felt a bit embarrassed. Washed my hands v quickly. Assumed I was in the wrong toilet. Checked the door on the way out and realised he was wrong. Felt embarrassed for him. At no point did I challenge him.

And for that reason alone I don’t this story.

SionnachRuadh · 22/05/2025 14:29

Jolyon: transwomen use the ladies' loo all the time and nobody ever notices

Also Jolyon: GC women are accosting women who use single sex spaces while not having big boobs

I think by now we know more about Jolyon's weird imagination than we ever needed to know.

And even if his (very obviously female) wife is 100% with him on this, it's still disgusting to use her illness as a prop in online arguments.

BunfightBetty · 22/05/2025 15:28

OvaHere · 22/05/2025 13:23

Gosh what are the chances of this happening to JM's wife of all people?

The same JM who is raising hundreds of thousands to challenge the SC judgment. You couldn't make this up!

I know!! What are the chances? With odds like this flying around them they should rush out and buy a Euromillions ticket ASAP.

DragonRunor · 22/05/2025 15:38

Isn’t it astonishing how many TW have “been using the ladies for years and never been challenged” but also “ women who have some (not sure what to put here - more masculine coded characteristics?) are now being challenged regularly and often aggressively”

Really?

moto748e · 22/05/2025 15:45

I can believe that butch-looking women 'might' be challenged more in recent times than in the past, but surely that would be down to the rather fevered climate that has been created by media fuss about this so-called massive upheaval, which is of course nothing of the sort. Women now having every reason to believe that there are much bigger numbers of males in women's spaces than there ever were previously.

Justme56 · 22/05/2025 15:46

Any stories of feminine males being attacked by vigilantes in the men’s? I thought this was the issue, but it’s all seems very quiet.

mintbru · 22/05/2025 15:51

I've seen his wife, nobody challenged her, nobody thought she might be a man, he is 100% lying and the lies will keep coming. I don't know how he can use his wife and her health issues in this cynical way and I wonder how she feels about that? He's a turd of a man who must really hate women.

teawamutu · 22/05/2025 15:55

OvaHere · 22/05/2025 13:23

Gosh what are the chances of this happening to JM's wife of all people?

The same JM who is raising hundreds of thousands to challenge the SC judgment. You couldn't make this up!

Well, clearly someone could...

SionnachRuadh · 22/05/2025 16:20

I mean it's one thing to fudge facts in support of a cause you believe in - though I think barristers should avoid doing so.

But Jolyon seems to be turning into one of those small boys you sometimes meet who tell you that their dad is a hitman for the CIA, or space aliens landed in their garden last Saturday.

BiologicalRobot · 22/05/2025 16:39

Justme56 · 22/05/2025 15:46

Any stories of feminine males being attacked by vigilantes in the men’s? I thought this was the issue, but it’s all seems very quiet.

That's because all the TW are unable to leave their homes because they've been banned from peeing or all sport. Allegedly.

TUCKINGFYP0 · 22/05/2025 17:00

Isn’t Jolyons wife Claire of Indonesian heritage ? That country well know for 6ft foot tall women with broad shoulders.

RedToothBrush · 22/05/2025 17:08

Datun · 22/05/2025 14:01

I completely agree. And now he's tied it in with his livelihood, too.

The pushback from the public, the clarification of laws, the withdrawal of dangerous medication, all of it helps with grifting, but only up to a point. With little to no success, people will stop donating.

But it doesn't help if your family are tied up in it.

I can just see him in the appalling situation of having to keep going, with the children becoming more emeshed while he earns less and less because of it.

See Jazz Jennings

But 'Be Kind'.

Cos 'being kind' always leads to good things rather than telling some necessary home truths...

If Maugham's kids have both transitioned there is a fair chance they are autistic. And we autism runs in families.

This almost seems like a fixation.

The issue I have is that Maugham is supposedly a clever man. If he did tax he would have had an eye for detail. There's no way that he doesn't know that deep down the legal arguments he's coming up with to challenge the supreme court aren't weak as fuck and a pile of arse.

Literally the only real tool in the arsenal he has at this point is to go down the vexatious litigation route to try and intimidate and make others capitulate / settle. Process is punishment and all that.

The trouble is with that is we are now at a point where that's really not going to wash and women will fight back.

Imnobody4 · 22/05/2025 17:53

Tweet from glosswitch sums it up.

https://x.com/glosswitch/status/1925527836896436399?t=hBWpkapRCPVAe-Ad-ZR2Ew&s=19

In witch trials, prosecutors justified inventing or even staging 'evil' events on the basis that they could have happened and it was therefore virtuous to pretend that they already had. Dunno why this just popped into my head.

Pious fraud (Latin: pia fraus) is used to describe fraud in religion or medicine. A pious fraud can be counterfeiting a miracle or falsely attributing a sacred text to a biblical figure due to the belief that the 'end justifes the means", in this case the end of increasing faith by whatever means available.

https://x.com/glosswitch/status/1925527836896436399?s=19&t=hBWpkapRCPVAe-Ad-ZR2Ew

soupycustard · 22/05/2025 18:02

It's amazing how women are suddenly being questioned, whereas transwomen have never been questioned because they pass so well. Is this because transwomen are not only women, they're also so much better at womaning than we are?
As someone who's 'as flat as a pancake' and with short hair, I haven't been questioned ever.
But then I'm not a TRA, so there's that.