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CrocsNotDocs · 2025-05-11T05:47:31+00:00

More details re the Darlington nurses. I don’t know what to say. This is outrageous. Just fucking outrageous. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14698557/I-begged-bosses-not-let-trans-nurse-invaded-changing-room-intimate-operation-refused-didnt-want-hurt-feelings.html

NoBinturongsHereMate · 11/05/2025 16:09

Pleasantsort · 11/05/2025 12:16

I hope Karen takes them for every penny she can get she can get for some sort of comfort in life. They are absolute bastards. No regard for the needs or care of the patient. Fuck them. How does that go with their Code of Conduct and NHS values etc? Damn the lot of them to hell. Thinking of you Karen x

Unfortunately the default for employment tribunals is simply to make good any financial losses. If you're lucky, and the other side had been particularly bad, they may award (usually partial) court costs.

Punitive damages are possible, but even rarer than an NHS HR department telling a transwoman to use the men's facilities.

GingerBeverage · 11/05/2025 16:15

I refuse to believe scheduling Rose for Karen’s operation was not fully intentional.

Wafflesandcrepes · 11/05/2025 16:16

It was hard to read.

HR seems to have been woefully incompetent in this case.

RethinkingLife · 11/05/2025 16:23

Wafflesandcrepes · 11/05/2025 16:16

It was hard to read.

HR seems to have been woefully incompetent in this case.

From what @KnottyAuty and @TwoLoonsAndASprout have said about the NHS policy audits, this is Darlington HR implementation of what is effectively standard NHS HR policy.
That said, I am minded that the surgical suite scheduling was intentional and is testament to punitive motivation.

Panterusblackish · 11/05/2025 16:30

I hope the police will take action again they man known as Rose.

He is very clearly a sexual predator. Exposing his genitals to women, staring at them naked and trying to coerce them to undress.

RoyalCorgi · 11/05/2025 16:34

GingerBeverage · 11/05/2025 16:15

I refuse to believe scheduling Rose for Karen’s operation was not fully intentional.

It looks very much like an act of calculated spite. These people are beyond unpleasant. No wonder the NHS is in such a state.

cantthinkofausername26 · 11/05/2025 16:36

So angry for Karen, this is disgusting. Just fuck off and leave us alone to get changed in peace!

GreenFriedTomato · 11/05/2025 16:39

KnottyAuty · 11/05/2025 09:56

Thank you Karen (if you are reading) for coming out to speak about this. Your video - in your own words and without the filter of the media - is so powerful. You are so brave to speak up and I am sorry that all of this has been done to you by the NHS in our name. It is appalling.

Unfortunately it is not just Karen's trust that has this policy of withdrawing treatment from any women who object to a male in a single sex ward. They are all operating this policy but the only way you know is by Freedom of Information search - appallingly secretive. The attach image is a screenshot from a London NHS Trust policy:

ETA - it's West London NHS Trust

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This has made me so angry again.
I was that nurse, that had distressed patients coming to me because there was a trans male on the ward. My response was similar to the one deemed 'not appropriate' but I wasn't going to lie. I refused to gaslight these women.

We were also supposed to say there are no men on the ward and LIE to our patients.
These women had ears and eyes and they knew damn well they were men, they'd exposed their dick FFS. And I was suppose to say 'oh no, you are mistaken, only ladies here'.

'The nurse should address any anxiety the patient has and address any underlying beliefs the patient has that may be unfounded'

Unfounded?? The belief that the person wandering around the ward with his penis exposed is a man? Unfounded??

And then check if the poor man is ok? He might be terribly distressed by being called a man by some hateful bigot in the next bed.

No woman should have to go through any of this. The NHS makes me sick to my stomach and needs to be held accountable for all the damage and pain they have caused.

Kevinbaconsrealwife · 11/05/2025 16:41

LivelyFinch · 11/05/2025 06:55

This is a man whom is blatantly a pervert and people, especially women, are supporting him. Shame on every single enabler of this entitled wanker.

I could not have put this better !!

Kitte321 · 11/05/2025 16:46

I’m incredulous. HOW did the views of senior management/HR become so warped that they couldn’t see what was so obviously smacking them in the face? Rose was a man and had no place in single sex space at any point. When the vulnerability and concerns of Karen (and others) were expressed he should have been removed forthwith. I
Im sure these concerns were expressed to ‘Rose’. The fact that he wanted to persist under that justification says everything we need to know about him.
The NHS lost its mind.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 11/05/2025 16:47

Thank you @GreenFriedTomato for standing up for the women in your care. Given the circumstances you were working in, I can only imagine how difficult that must have been.

ArabellaScott · 11/05/2025 17:01

GreenFriedTomato · 11/05/2025 16:39

This has made me so angry again.
I was that nurse, that had distressed patients coming to me because there was a trans male on the ward. My response was similar to the one deemed 'not appropriate' but I wasn't going to lie. I refused to gaslight these women.

We were also supposed to say there are no men on the ward and LIE to our patients.
These women had ears and eyes and they knew damn well they were men, they'd exposed their dick FFS. And I was suppose to say 'oh no, you are mistaken, only ladies here'.

'The nurse should address any anxiety the patient has and address any underlying beliefs the patient has that may be unfounded'

Unfounded?? The belief that the person wandering around the ward with his penis exposed is a man? Unfounded??

And then check if the poor man is ok? He might be terribly distressed by being called a man by some hateful bigot in the next bed.

No woman should have to go through any of this. The NHS makes me sick to my stomach and needs to be held accountable for all the damage and pain they have caused.

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Thank you for standing up for women.

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

countrysidedeficit · 11/05/2025 17:04

BettyFilous · 11/05/2025 15:38

I can’t be the only one who read the Mail article and was unsettled to read ‘Rose’ works in theatre with sedated and unconscious patients.

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I feel frightened knowing that an NHS Trust has not only allowed a male with known predatory behaviours to work with incapacitated female patients - but that the Trust had enabled and supported this male to be in those situations.

It is so obvious that this male was getting sexual kicks from being involved in intimate care and procedures on female patients.

When you consent to surgery, you are trusting that the staff will keep you safe and treat you with dignity and respect.

Clearly you can't trust them to protect you after all.

Helleofabore · 11/05/2025 17:07

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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"It's not a good look, is it."

I think you rather are not a good judge of what is a 'good look' if you cannot see how this female nurse, Karen, has been harmed by her workplace.

Helleofabore · 11/05/2025 17:08

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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And please, do weaponise suicide rates, that is also not a 'good look'.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/05/2025 17:09

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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Oh fuck off

having zero empathy for a woman who was sexually abused standing up for her legal rights because you’re such a manic TRA you’ve had every ounce of compassion extracted from you

not a good look is it?

GreenCandleWax · 11/05/2025 17:09

Shadowsunray · 11/05/2025 06:50

Very pleased this information is getting out to the public. The behaviour of the NHS has been disgraceful.

And the Union too! - unbelievable!

Whooowhooohoo · 11/05/2025 17:09

GingerBeverage · 11/05/2025 16:15

I refuse to believe scheduling Rose for Karen’s operation was not fully intentional.

Picturing a meeting with a rainbow lanyard admin and Rose:

Rainbow lanyard: Rose dear, how can we make this right?
Rose: Oh, please let me watch her get her womb taken out …. Then she will know how it feels to be missing your womanhood!!!
Lanyard: good idea, let’s make it happen!

AhBiscuits · 11/05/2025 17:10

BTW, this is Rose.

“Why aren’t you getting changed”. Man asks female Darlington nurse this 3 times in female changeroom

FlakyCritic · 11/05/2025 17:11

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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You clearly didn't read the article. This male was exposing his genitals to a vulnerable woman, and SMIRKING while doing so.

If he identified as a 'c1s' man, you'd say this is wrong. Why is it any less wrong?

These a re predatorial males, males are 50% of the population, not a small population, and as shown, they are far far from vulnerable. In fact, brainwashed posters like you @BigHeadBertha have made them into a Sacred Caste.

Perhaps next time actually read the article, because coming on to spew your ignorance and defend a male exposing his penis to women while smirking, is not a good look.

PS Evidence proves they have no higher a suicide rate than the rest of the population, you were brainwashed to fall for a dangerous lie and myth because you were too ignorant and ill-informed to research properly. But do keep promoting Suicide Ideation and defending males weaponising suicide to emotionally manipulate in order to get what they want.

TattiePants · 11/05/2025 17:11

That was a heartbreaking read. Poor Karen having to out herself but what an amazing woman she is. I’m so sick of women being forced to compromise their dignity and safety to go along with this charade.

JenniferBooth · 11/05/2025 17:13

On GB News now

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 11/05/2025 17:17

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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Are you quite alright? I feel so very superior to you, that’s for sure.

borntobequiet · 11/05/2025 17:19

BigHeadBertha · 11/05/2025 17:03

More hyped up drama about a transperson in a dressing room/restroom/or anywhere else on the planet. Something few people have probably even ever knowingly experienced and even far fewer having been even mildy inconvenienced by. There aren't that many of them, you know, and most of them just want to be able to get through their lives in some kind of minimal comfort.

Of course, it's highly satisfying for small-minded, nasty people to single out a very small and vulnerable group that has quite enough trials and tribulations as it is (as seen in their very high suicide rate, for example). Yes, do that, amplify any tiny thing they can, shout it from the rooftops, as an excuse to pile on and bully said small, unfortunate, vulnerable group. So smug, so satisfying. So easy. You feel so very superior to them.

It's not a good look, is it.

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So you are saying that something unpleasant doesn’t matter because it might only happen to a few women. And some transpeople are nice, and misunderstood.
Also, we are nasty bigots for not wanting that unpleasant thing to happen to anyone and trans people are the most marginalised and oppressed people around, hence suicidal.

None of what you say is logical, sensible or true.