“Why aren’t you getting changed”. Man asks female Darlington nurse this 3 times in female changeroom

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More details re the Darlington nurses. I don’t know what to say. This is outrageous. Just fucking outrageous.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14698557/I-begged-bosses-not-let-trans-nurse-invaded-changing-room-intimate-operation-refused-didnt-want-hurt-feelings.html

Very much so, yes.

@NoBinturongsHereMate That's really interesting as I was reading that article yesterday too. I am vegan and it just didn't resonate with me at all. I say I'm vegan, actually I came to it later in life having been vegetarian for decades. My kids aren't vegan so we have non-vegan stuff in the house and I will, at times, eat leftovers with dairy in them. Absolutely no qualms about it. Similarly if someone gave me eg chocolates as a present not knowing I'm vegan I might give them away but equally I might eat them. I still describe myself as vegan but if someone wanted to argue with me that I'm not it really wouldn't bother me. It's probably more accurate to say I strive to be vegan or something like that and that's absolutely fine. Sorry for the ramble, point being, I thought it made sense in the context of all this too and note that I just don't feel like that in my values and beliefs so it is interesting to try to understand why some people do.

Anyone that supports the Darlington nurses might wish to add z comment on their raise a complaint form? Simple to find following your link and contact us ..

Show them how appalling they treated women.

Absolutely this ^^ especially for vocational careers like engineering or medical. I left an employer to start my own company after 20 years and was amazed at how de-stabilising it was. I had not realised how much of my identity was wrapped up in this organisation. Really fascinating. Herminia Ibarra (sp?) has some good talks at the London Business School online about the "liminal state" between careers (identities?) and how dangerous it is - in the sense that if you don't prepare for a crucible-like discomfort/uncertainty your mind will latch on to the first thing that comes along, rather than being able to make a meaningful choice. Human brains are completely weird and interesting.

I didn't want to start another thread so I'm putting this here. I can honestly not understand why scarce resources are used for this:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/c639e0f8-4884-41b5-be69-cb6360604b57?shareToken=ef9293211e0cb01a9ffcd9d9e260efdf

There are some absolute fucking idiots working for the NHS.

And as per usual their response is solely focused on protecting their reputation rather than listening or reflecting.

"As an organisation, we are committed to creating a workplace where all colleagues feel safe, supported and respected."

Unless you're a woman.

It's as if they're looking at their PR going down the toilet and saying 'hold my beer'.

In all honesty, as a gay woman I am cringing at all this, this is not anything to be 'proud' of. Loathe 'Pride' month and all it's wankery.

Bloody hell. What a bunch of idiots.

Interesting how they always completely dismiss all the many women telling them they feel EXCLUDED and UNSAFE by these actions. Their actions show they don't care about women's safety or inclusion at all. . Honestly I think these trusts should be defunded. They're completely broken and pandering to activists rather than doing the job they're supposed to. I don't think it's a coincidence that NHS Fife seems to have a terrible history of mistreating patients at the same time as being all in on gender woo.

Is this their “please don’t make let the LGBTQ+ network make our lives hell because we’ve had to concede women have actual rights too ” penance?

Throw them to the rainbow lions.

Parts of the NHS clearly has too much funding if there is time and money to be spent on this. The NHS needs to get back to basics and to start addressing waiting lists.

To be fair, it looks like it was knocked up in 5 minutes by the 16 year old on a work placement!

This is a very perceptive phrase. I will pocket that and recycle it from time to time. Thank you.

A spokesperson for County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust said: “The calendar was developed and shared internally, during June which is nationally recognised as Pride Month, as part of the work led by our LGBTQ+ staff network, using time allocated through our staff network group framework.

People campaigned hard for rights to engage in union activity at work, and now networks are taking time off for "networks", which I don't believe are legally protected in the same way as actual unions.

If staff networks want recognition and protection, there should be a more robust framework for them, not just the entirely informal status which ranges from the above... to situations like SEEN in the Civil Service: Elspeth Duemmer-Wrigley, a chair of a SEEN (Sex Equality and Equity Network) network) was accused of harrassment in a DEFRA-affiliated org. Although the tribunal case against her was dropped, "The individual works for another organisation linked to Defra and is still suing the government department for allowing the network to exist." (according to The Times this spring)

I am not sure whether it would be better to win to reinforce the right for SEEN to exist within DEFRA or to lose on the basis that no staff network should exist and all networks, including LGBT+ ones, must immediately shut down.

Durham and Darlington trust is my local trust. I'd much rather they focussed on patient care than political handwringing and bloody calendars but hey, I am just a woman waiting for a medical appointment to fix a health issue. What do I know!

Or just permit them to exist, like member groups/ clubs, but NOT getting any budget or having the status of a stakeholder body, which is how they seem to be being treated currently (apart from the SEEN ones, which haven't had any budget as far as I can see, and whose members have been witch-hunted - see the new report https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/new-report-on-everyday-cancellation-in-publishing/#:~:text=Has%20publishing%20has%20become%20a,is%20binary%2C%20immutable%20and%20important.)

I think the Defra SEEN network chairs were not allowed to do any SEEN-related activity in their working hours. Unlike the trans network a:gender who allegedly had a paid position…

Funny how double standards are so BINARY....

I saw a presentation on YouTube by an LGBTQ network chair in a Midlands NHS Trust. They explained that this was a sort of a promotion taking on this role. It came with a set amount of time each week to dedicate to LGBTQ network tasks. He set about integrating the NHS Rainbow Badges scheme into his trust. He did no consultation with any women or the women’s network as he systematically adjusted all the policies to be unlawful Gender Self ID basis. So there was definitely an internal staff cost (hourly rate) dedicated to this work but I’m not sure if the chair also got a pay rise to do it. The chap certainly thought of his title as a promotion tho.

He did no consultation with any women or the women’s network as he systematically adjusted all the policies to be unlawful Gender Self ID basis.

Tells you everything.

Does anyone's have the tribunal info/email template so I can request to observe?

Mucho appreciated if so.

@PersonIrresponsible

It's [email protected].

Hutchison & others v County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust
2501192/2024 Public Access Request

I suggest putting the whole of the above in the subject line for their ease of reference.

I asked for remote access as a member of public and set out the name and email address I would use. I got an immediate reply simply saying that links would be sent by email one working day before the hearing. No mention of any limit on numbers or log in requirements.

I haven't read all yet. I am steaming over the operation story. Didn't her consultant have any input? Words actually fail me. Who cares how this self identified non-human feels? Apart from the trust that is. Thank goodness I don't depend on them for treatment.