Cisgender lesbian forcibly removed from toilets by male security after being wrongly accused of being a man

[Christinapple]

This isn't the first time this has happened is it? I expect IMHO there will be more cases like this happening given the current obsession with trans people and how masculine or feminine people look.

https://gomag.com/article/hotel-guard-barges-into-womens-restroom-accuses-lesbian-guest-of-being-a-man/

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/05/07/liberty-hotel-boston-bathroom-lesbian-trans/

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/same-sex-couple-demands-answers-after-hotel-security-threw-one-out-of-bathroom-thinking-she-was-a-man/ar-AA1Eh00e

"A woman and her girlfriend were thrown out of a luxurious five-star hotel after a security guard allegedly accused her of being a man using a female bathroom.
Ansley Baker and her partner, Liz Victor, were at the Liberty Hotel in Boston, Massachusetts, attending a Kentucky Derby party on Saturday.

The couple was using the women’s restroom in the foyer when they heard a bang on the stall doors, they told CBS News Boston.
Baker said she was in one of the stalls as Victor waited around the corner near the sinks. The hotel says that security was alerted by several women that the couple was sharing a single stall. Baker and Victor deny being in the same stall.
The male security guard allegedly began urging Baker, who was born a woman and identifies as a woman, to get out of the bathroom and accused her of being a man
“All of a sudden there was banging on the door,” Baker told the local news station. “I pulled my shorts up. I hadn't even tied them. One of the security guards was there telling me to get out of the bathroom, that I was a man in the women's bathroom. I said, ‘I'm a woman.’”"

The woman in question looks and sounds like they've abnormally high testosterone. Whether naturally or not, who knows. I can see why the security guard felt the need to ask the question.

I'm glad you asked that.

Why not just say two women were in the ladies loos? It would be much easier to understand.

Think that seems to be the main issue. Not sure name security barging in is necessary either.

Blimey, this happens so often that you post news of it happening on a different continent (and referencing the ‘ever-reliable’ Pink News 🙄) in response to the SC ruling?

Nice try Chris, maybe something more relevant would be more interesting?

I am not sure why this story of a man entering a woman’s space and acting aggressively towards women is meant to persuade us that it is ok for men to use women’s toilets?

Never ceases to amaze me how wilful some people are in refusing to understand what being critical of gender means. Trump and co are not critical of gender, they bloody love gender, they just want it enforced in the traditional way. Obviously. Feminists who are critical of gender don’t want it enforced at all, in the traditional way or in the TRA way.

What is the relevance of her being a lesbian?

The easiest way to deal with this is to have clear social norms where only women go into women’s spaces. Once we have established this as a baseline - and we have not yet done this, just look at all the Reddit threads of people saying they will defy the law - it will be much easier to manage.

Oh come on you terfy cis people women. Now you've heard this, you have to admit that twaw (that just auto corrected to twat!), and it's only fair to let them do whatever they want.
Lols.

Really? Can you link it? Vile comments are usually moderated out v quickly!

It’s always the US isn’t it?

Oh, it’s you again. Pink news is not a reputable source of the truth and this was in America.

Me too

Something bad happened in the US - now all you UK bigots have to ignore the EA2010 and let men self ID into the female toilets or else!

Have I understood it correctly?

If trans women wanted to help gender non conforming women from being challenged in women’s spaces, they could stay out of them, thereby restoring the understanding that only women are in women’s spaces.

I am not surprised that a women who intentially made herself look like a man, was removed from the ladies loos.

This is on the men who try to access women only spaces.

Stop trying to link GC women with Trump. Just because Trump believes men shouldn’t be in women’s spaces, it doesn’t mean that people who believe in the need for single sex spaces, services, sports etc are supporters of Trump.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4651722-butch-women-and-public-loos-not-sure-if-correct-place-to-post?page=2

A lot of them were deleted, but only after I reported them!

My ex ex (!)about ten years ago was dragged out of a bathroom in a bar and shoved against a wall, by a doorman. She was a confident person though. Let him do it and then lifted her top up revealing a rather large pair of...
He was mortified, we all felt quite sorry for him in the end and he bought us all a drink. He was just doing his job, we understood-but it happens and did then.

My most recent ex (obviously my partner at the time of posting that thread) was so nervous about the reception she got, that in her past she'd often gone for hours without going to the loo-even on boozy days out, making herself ill and giving herself a terrible kidney infection-of course I see that this is entirely a matter of her own making and she should have found better ways around it, but my point is, this was years before we met, which in itself was a good few years ago. A 'new' thing, it is not!

It had happened to them both at school, too.

I marveled at the trans accusations. As a rule, transwomen present as feminine. Long hair, skirts etc. Nothing like what either of my aforementioned previous partners looked like.

Blimey, this happens so often that you post news of it happening on a different continent

Add the continent of Europe and American population together, it gives you 1.76 billion people, half of which are women. Chris has come up with...

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That's me convinced, unfettered loo access to all men now!

What do you mean, intentionally made herself look like a man? In what way?

Indeed, the SC even covered this in their judgement - although this would obviously not apply on another continent. Aren’t we lucky to have such a straightforward, thorough clarification 😊

Not going so well, hey OP?
We all know your agenda - with calling women “cis” despite being asked not to so very often, quoting from Pink News (of all media outlets!), and gleeful reprimanding of women who know the law and their rights!
Never mind, at least you are consistent…

Wow! I’m sorry this happened to you, and that happened to your ex. Funny about your ex ex though - good response!

Me too. It was either going to be Chris or butterfly. It's like a bingo game round here. Let's try and have a gotcha with this! Eh...no...

Apologies I quoted the wrong post. That was meant for who said Chris was consistent.