“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”

[TheIsleOfTERF]

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/iQskn15N11

For anyone interested on theories of how TERF Island has come to be!

Get the bingo board out as it has all the classics!

-Housewives
-Lonely
-Jealous
-Funded by the right wing

This is spot on. I think I said something in another thread about a girl on Twix talking about how all the women she saw on TV growing up were super strong - Buffy, Xena - and previous to that we had Charlie’s Angels and Wonder Woman. And they could overpower men. So ordinary women should of course be at least equal, physically, to men. And so then we get random girls on the street saying sure, if they trained enough they could totally fight [insert some male MMA champ here].

Somewhere we lost the understanding that what the Suffragettes were fighting for was equal intellectual standing with men. Not trying to say that there are no physical differences between men and women at all.

Do they really think “terfs” are the minority? Ones with the confidence to speak out previously maybe, but the main thing I have learned this last year is actually just how mainstream it is to not believe in this trans stuff, and to be getting pretty tired of it. I was at an airport last week and a group were laughing about all the things they would like to identify as.

You win the internet for that today, FigTree!😂
And as this threads is full of clever, witty women being very funny, that's some achievement

The minute we acknowledge that we are not as strong as men, the same misogynists use that against us to put us back in the box.

Same value but different is too much nuance for a misogynist.

For those wanting a lawn boy, I think you have to order them from amazon dot com as opposed to amazon dot co dot uk, since they're not a thing over here.

P&P and customs charges will be a killer, though.

(And yes, 'boy' is an old term in English for a servant of any age, like garçon in French, but is very colonialist in British English, as in 'houseboy'. Much more used in US English - cowboy (obviously), bellboy, pool boy, lawn boy - not sure what that says about the USians).

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OK, which one of you wrote this:

"It is because they are real women and real women are actually organised"

...and this:

"because of all this lunacy making all of us look bad, all the financial support is drying up, and you have nobody to blame but yourselves. stop worrying about people who are carving their own path, and start worrying about how you're going to support yourselves and show your Pride when nobody is willing to sponsor you. YOU need to get serious and organise yourselves instead of blaming everyone else for your failures, you kind of fucked it up for all of us"

Whoever she is, I'd like to buy her a drink.

I'm not sure how you're managing that, given that she is not longer with us.

Or has she perhaps just popped along to the golf course to check out the lawn boys?

I thought when anybody here refers to 'The Queen', they mean JKR.
Is there somebody else, a pretender to the throne??

Um... Camilla is the Queen consort and often referred to as the Queen.

Unless @KnottyAuty will be chatting with Camilla.

That would explain it.

I could host this ere garden party, I have a lawn. The only thing is, I'd need at least three lawn boys for a week to give the place a good tidy up...

Just checking… Buffy, Xena, Charlie’s Angels, Wonder Woman… these are fictional characters, yes? I’m sure your analysis is spot on, but are we really saying that the young TRAs somehow believe those are documentaries? Is their grip on reality so fundamentally weak? I mean, I guess it must be given the other fantasies they believe so passionately in but that is a really sad indictment of humanity’s critical thinking levels.

separately, the user names on this thread have really put me in mind to have pesto pasta with fried green tomatoes for tea. Do you think my lawn boy will be here in time to take care of that for me?

🤣👏

This wasn’t a trans-identified girl, I don’t think. Just someone who was commenting on the “girl power” etc narrative that pervaded her childhood. She was suggesting that she was encouraged by the media of the time to see women/girls as physically equal to men/boys. And that to say otherwise was somehow a betrayal of women.

I see. Thanks. Still a bizarre state of affairs.

They're also making the mistake of assuming that vocal protests are what makes the difference. It's part of it, but most of it from a grass-roots point of view is writing letters, campaigning, leafleting, contributing to crowdfunders, responding to consultations and getting those in power to understand the issues.

None of that is achieved by standing in the street screaming that you want to kill people, no matter how beautifully made your tatty old bit of cardboard sign is.

The thing is, Buffy and Wonder Woman, at least, are not normal human women - the characters have extraordinary powers.

In Buffy's case that is underlined in one episode where she is deprived of her Slayer's powers and almost killed.

It’s hilarious, joyfully hilarious how stubbornly small minded they are.

Firstly the image they have of terfs is hilarious. They have such a narrow minded view of women and those who fight for women. Because it can only be white middle aged women, no one else.

Also how misogynistic is that characterisation of terfs. Alas That misogynistic male spirit refuses to die in them!

And it’s the fact that they think they’re the majority. The world all over has learnt basic, universal evidence based biology. Feelings will not trump that. So it’s not terfs they have to contend with, it’s scientific fact in which we as a society base our reality.

But no, the issue is terfs. Not the men and women all the world over that believe in the biological reality of men and women.

Also do they not know that they’ve created this? They bullied and doxxed anyone who has a different view. They’ve been lulled into a false sense of security thinking they were the majority. They bullied us into silence but they should’ve remembered ‘better the devil you know’

I think her point was that they were super human and overpowered men. But therefore ordinary women should be at least as strong as men.

I don’t think it was a huge philosophical point, just her realising that she had been conditioned to feel like if she said girls were weaker than boys, she was somehow letting the side down.

Here's a selection in response to "I'm busy baking 50 sausage rolls for my Terf cell members who are dropping by later." :

WHAT!!! Only one sausage roll per person. Cheapskate. And with all that far right money too!

Don't forget to write the coded message in the underside of the pastry Jeannie.

Yo, Shelly. Don't forget the tequila for my cell. It was mezcal last meeting and no one was impressed. Do better.

"Ex-GC" 😆 That's not the way it works. There's no unpeaking.

Can I have your sausage roll recipe? I’m arranging a get-together with my sister terf cell members for Friday and was looking for catering ideas. I’ll WhatsApp you.

Shall I bring a pillow, I believe pillow fights are one of those things we women like to do when we get together?

I'll be there - identifying as one of your cell members, even though we've never met - answering the call to freshly Terf-baked sausage rolls.

I’m doing cupcakes for mine.

Oh, can I come? I have been looking for a cell but they are so well hidden, do you have tea? I can bring some balaclavas if you're short, maybe even some camouflage netting (my son has some left from army cadets, he won't mind) I will look in my garage for it and bring it anyway

I'm assembling 10 more patio chairs I got at Lidl last week, because I just don't have enough seating to accommodate my terf cell.

I do agree with you, but I think the TRA reference to housewives is an indication that they're seen as worthless, which says a lot more about them than the hypothetical woman in question. The reference to "bored" does the same (she clearly doesn't have a career, or interests, or even any thoughts) as does the reference to her husband fucking the lawnboy (clearly she's just a beard and/or stupid enough not to realise that her husband is gay, so even her marriage is worthless).

Misogyny through and through.

@JamieCannister “As a result one GC is worth about 10 TRAs.”

I’m imagining a kind of D&D / RP game scoring system:

TERF - determination 10, organisation 10, free time 3

TRA - invective 10, misogyny 10, grip on reality 2

Brilliant recognition of Magdalen Burns and the women from MN who set up For Women Scotland.

https://x.com/theattagirls/status/1919640292187115806?s=61