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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”

480 replies

TheIsleOfTERF · 05/05/2025 16:56

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/iQskn15N11

For anyone interested on theories of how TERF Island has come to be!

Get the bingo board out as it has all the classics!

-Housewives
-Lonely
-Jealous
-Funded by the right wing

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ThatCyanCat · 06/05/2025 11:22

The "bored middle aged housewives whose husbands are closet gays fucking young boys" thing is just an old misogynistic stereotype designed to invalidate women (and pulls in some handy homophobia too).

Somehow, when it suits them, they always know who the women are!

FigTreeInEurope · 06/05/2025 11:24

Shame JKR didn't go up into space with Katie Perry and the others.. She would've been called an AstroTERF.

TangenitalContrivences · 06/05/2025 11:25

TheIsleOfTERF · 05/05/2025 16:56

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/iQskn15N11

For anyone interested on theories of how TERF Island has come to be!

Get the bingo board out as it has all the classics!

-Housewives
-Lonely
-Jealous
-Funded by the right wing

This is indicative of the echo chamber that "No Debate" has created

There is no knowledge, at all, that 59% agree with he recent SC decision, and only 18% disagree - that's a huge discrepancy and one that TRAs don;t know because they literally and metaphorically stick their fingers in their ears and scream.

You could try answering on Reddit if you dare, in fact encourage them to come here and debate.

It's the echo chamber like Reddit that tells them they are in the majority when quite clearly they are not. mad.

AlexandraLeaving · 06/05/2025 11:32

ISaySteadyOn · 06/05/2025 10:53

I mostly lurk, but have plucked up some courage to post here. I was just thinking about the accusation that we are all bored housewives. Even if we were all housewives, it doesn't follow that we are therefore wrong.

As someone who, due to various complications in my life, is a SAHM and housewife, it's been interesting to read everyone distancing themselves from that accusation as though through housewifery, one's opinion and thoughts are less worthy. I'm guilty of it myself at times often starting my sentences with 'I'm just a housewife and even I...'

It was just something I noticed.

You're right. Sorry if you feel we have appeared dismissive.

ManyATrueWord · 06/05/2025 11:35

Malcolm Clark is an excellent investigator and journalist on this subject. I have paid for a subscription as he is so good.

Serencwtch · 06/05/2025 11:36

😂😂 my favourite:

'Everyone else has lots of day to day juggling.Work,study,cooking,cleaning,meeting friends.Just life stuff. These people have the time,money and the obsessive hatred which is their primary focus'

Oh my, these poor kids how do they find the time when they have to cook & clean for themselves.

Meanwhile us women just have our careers, DC, aging parents & a household to run. No wonder we have so much time to be TERFY.

Shadowsunray · 06/05/2025 11:43

Apologies if this has already been shared but this one is particularly hilarious, really enjoyed the comments. Love terf humour.
https://x.com/IndyLassie/status/1919651465032880342

For those not on X

“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”
teawamutu · 06/05/2025 11:43

Serencwtch · 06/05/2025 11:36

😂😂 my favourite:

'Everyone else has lots of day to day juggling.Work,study,cooking,cleaning,meeting friends.Just life stuff. These people have the time,money and the obsessive hatred which is their primary focus'

Oh my, these poor kids how do they find the time when they have to cook & clean for themselves.

Meanwhile us women just have our careers, DC, aging parents & a household to run. No wonder we have so much time to be TERFY.

We're probably using all our shadowy right wing cash to outsource all that.

I mean, other terfs are. I've never seen a fucking penny. Annoying.

PlanetVulcan · 06/05/2025 11:46

Love the "dark money" reference too. The only dark money I have is tarnished 2p coins 😢

FlirtsWithRhinos · 06/05/2025 11:49

RedToothBrush · 06/05/2025 09:24

most terfs I've seen are middle age + house wives etc with fuck all better to do than sit round and gossip and bitch about others while their husbands are busy fucking the lawn boy at the golf course

I don't think anyone has commented on this seriously. We should. It describes the husband fucking the lawn boy. It's a classic case of casual homophobia. It should be noted.

Casual homophobia, casual sexism, casual agism.

This person is not describing people they in reality know anything about, this person is just displaying their own prejudices about middle aged women.

Who they in reality know no more about than they in reality know what it is to be the opposite sex.

The entire movement is nothing more than the projection of ones own assumptions and prejudices as "fact".

KnottyAuty · 06/05/2025 11:58

FlirtsWithRhinos · 06/05/2025 11:49

Casual homophobia, casual sexism, casual agism.

This person is not describing people they in reality know anything about, this person is just displaying their own prejudices about middle aged women.

Who they in reality know no more about than they in reality know what it is to be the opposite sex.

The entire movement is nothing more than the projection of ones own assumptions and prejudices as "fact".

Good point. What about the middle aged transitioners? I thought they were women? #TWAW Aren't they always then? 🤔

PaintDecisions · 06/05/2025 12:31

ISaySteadyOn · 06/05/2025 10:53

I mostly lurk, but have plucked up some courage to post here. I was just thinking about the accusation that we are all bored housewives. Even if we were all housewives, it doesn't follow that we are therefore wrong.

As someone who, due to various complications in my life, is a SAHM and housewife, it's been interesting to read everyone distancing themselves from that accusation as though through housewifery, one's opinion and thoughts are less worthy. I'm guilty of it myself at times often starting my sentences with 'I'm just a housewife and even I...'

It was just something I noticed.

I don't think anyone who isn't a SAHP is distancing themselves from the concepts of being a SAHP - simply stating how we aren't in that category ourselves.

Igmum · 06/05/2025 12:32

proximalhumerous · 05/05/2025 21:21

So these trans people actually believe they're in the majority? How the fuck do they work that out?

It’s like gorillas Proximal. There are Very Few gorillas left but they all live close to each other in shrinking pockets of forest so gorillas, when socialising, get to see a lot of other gorillas and totally fail to realise that in general society there really aren’t many gorillas at all.

Note: I do not know who it was who originally surveyed gorillas for their views on this but they were Very Brave.

Serencwtch · 06/05/2025 12:50

Shadowsunray · 06/05/2025 11:43

Apologies if this has already been shared but this one is particularly hilarious, really enjoyed the comments. Love terf humour.
https://x.com/IndyLassie/status/1919651465032880342

For those not on X

Can you post the comments for those of us not on X

If these TERF - cells are so widespread how come there has never been mentioned on MN. Surely we're prime recruitment territory

It would be hilarious If it wasn't for the fact these people can't see they are in echo chambers & are actually influencing policy.

ArabellaScott · 06/05/2025 12:52

Lawn boy?

GreenFriedTomato · 06/05/2025 12:52

KnottyAuty · 06/05/2025 11:58

Good point. What about the middle aged transitioners? I thought they were women? #TWAW Aren't they always then? 🤔

It's middle aged CIS women duh!
Middle aged transwomen are sexy and better at womaning (Obviously) but sadly don't have the rich golfing husbands or live in affluent neighbourhoods with influential judges on speed dial

ArabellaScott · 06/05/2025 12:55

They have not the slightest passing acquaintance with reality, and that is why we're winning.

Keep up the good work, lads!.

GreenFriedTomato · 06/05/2025 13:00

PestoPasto · 06/05/2025 10:50

Why are they so convinced by this narrative that every GC person is a sad middle aged, middle class house wife who has been sheltered her whole life?

I’m in my 20’s, disabled, and grew up extremely poor working class.

I’m an atheist and my best friend is a gay man (who feels the same way).

I’m sure they’d argue I was lying though.

Hilarious isn't it
Well I do qualify as middle-aged. But I'm poor and definitely don't attend garden parties with powerful rich people.

And yes, JKR is middle-aged and wealthy and contributes financially.

But, they also have PLENTY of wealthy celebrities on their side. If they're not putting their hands in their pockets to help the trans cause, then maybe they need to ask them why not.

Are they perhaps not really allies? Perhaps only paying lip service so they can look all kind and progressive and OTRSOH?

Maybe sticking on a 'protect the dolls' t-shirt and slagging off JKR is support enough

TheOtherRaven · 06/05/2025 13:07

ArabellaScott · 06/05/2025 12:55

They have not the slightest passing acquaintance with reality, and that is why we're winning.

Keep up the good work, lads!.

As evidenced by the rants we had here all weekend.

KnottyAuty · 06/05/2025 13:23

GreenFriedTomato · 06/05/2025 12:52

It's middle aged CIS women duh!
Middle aged transwomen are sexy and better at womaning (Obviously) but sadly don't have the rich golfing husbands or live in affluent neighbourhoods with influential judges on speed dial

I'm seeing the Queen next week. I'll put in a word. She might get us into a garden party.

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/05/2025 13:30

LawnBoy · 06/05/2025 10:13

The question that's been tugging my sleeve is: Do they actually know what we think? If one were to ask a random commenter on that subreddit, would one get an accurate summary of the GC position?

I know the lovely women (and men) of this board could summarise the TRA perspective in a way they would consider accurate.

But can they do the same for us?

No, they cannot. They really do seem to think that what we want is for women to return to traditional roles and presentations, and that we are rejecting of gender non conformity. This is because they cannot differentiate between Gender and Sex...plus that they don't really understand what 'gender' implies or means in the first place. The term 'Gender' has simply been embraced - without any analysis at all.

What they seem to think is that by claiming an opposite sex identity you are challenging gender stereotypes (rather than re-inforcing them, as it actually the case). It's all so juvenile......as if they've never really read the foundational texts, or understood the principles of both the women's movement or the gay liberation movement. It is as if neither had ever happened.

My best explanation for the confusion is that they think that there are absolutely no differences between the sexes...apart from body parts....that all else is socially constructed. Sex therefore has no consequence and doesn't mean anything. 'Gender identity' is therefore just personal prefernce or an identification with certain types of thing which are the opposite to that expected of one's sex.

I do think there are certain elements within certain types of feminsim which have encouraged this belief. That by suggesting that males are bigger and stronger, or more prone to sexual paraphilias etc is to also suggest that women are weak and pathetic and cannot stand up for themselves, and so on ( which they see as a harmful gender stereotype).

ThatCyanCat · 06/05/2025 13:31

I went to the Garden Party once. There was a corgi lying flat and still on a lawn for a very long time. I was just wondering if I should tell someone and then it got up and ran away. Probably looking for a lawn boy.

JamieCannister · 06/05/2025 13:34

TheIsleOfTERF · 05/05/2025 16:56

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/iQskn15N11

For anyone interested on theories of how TERF Island has come to be!

Get the bingo board out as it has all the classics!

-Housewives
-Lonely
-Jealous
-Funded by the right wing

I'm going to put it out there - people who believe that sex is real and matters have more common sense and basc life skills, and less mental illness or confusion, than those who think men can be women. As a result one GC is worth about 10 TRAs. Add in the fact that practically no-one genuinely believes TWAW and you have a recipe for TRA disaster.

Shortshriftandlethal · 06/05/2025 13:37

Ultimately it comes down to a total dismissal of female agency and integrity - especially when it involves older women or those that won't be "nice".

So many socialist men of a 'certain age' too....have been dismissing women's issues as irrelevant - not really the stuff of politics - in the same way they always have.

JamieCannister · 06/05/2025 13:38

"Another advantage the TERFs have over us is that they aren't limited to telling the truth." has to be the most uber-DARVO dishonest BS I have ever seen on the internet!

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