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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Amendment to Data Bill to revert all gender markers and out all trans people

412 replies

bluegoldflow · 02/05/2025 22:07

Hoping this passes, it shouldn't be possible to change your sex (a biological impossibility) on legal documents. This would prevent men using this loop hole to erase their past identities and stop male crimes being recorded as female crimes.

Amendment to Data Bill to revert all gender markers and out all trans people
Amendment to Data Bill to revert all gender markers and out all trans people
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ifIwerenotanandroid · 11/05/2025 12:49

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 10:08

I have to say it's a SCANDAL how education standards in English have slipped in this country

It👏is 👏a 👏disgrace

FACT

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Now, why did you have to remind me of this?

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 13:09

ifIwerenotanandroid · 11/05/2025 12:49

Now, why did you have to remind me of this?

Completely intentional.

They sound like this.

And accuse us of being far right.

The parallels are amusing.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 13:09

JellySaurus · 11/05/2025 12:44

They identify the differences between Cis gender a woman born as the gender they identify as and Trans Woman a woman born with the gender they don't identify as

So because I don't identify with the gender imposed upon me since birth, I'm a transwoman. Got it.

🤪

No that would make you a trans man or non binary because only men can be trans women. 🙃

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 13:12

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 13:09

No that would make you a trans man or non binary because only men can be trans women. 🙃

I beg to differ.

If we abolish sex and sex is irrelevant any of us can claim to be a transwoman. If a transwomen are woman and women are cis women then how do you logically tell the difference and how can you argue who is a transwoman and who is not? Transwomen are anyone who says they are.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 13:15

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 13:12

I beg to differ.

If we abolish sex and sex is irrelevant any of us can claim to be a transwoman. If a transwomen are woman and women are cis women then how do you logically tell the difference and how can you argue who is a transwoman and who is not? Transwomen are anyone who says they are.

I see your logic, but no.

Trans women are just men who say they are women for any reason.

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 13:16

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 13:15

I see your logic, but no.

Trans women are just men who say they are women for any reason.

But I'm going with their logic about wanting to erase biological sex legally.

If they do that they erase their own existence and ability to distinguish themselves.

My point is their hypocrisy.

ApocalipstickNow · 11/05/2025 13:19

This is all going to break down in the future, because identities will become so niche there will be no definitions, no criteria and no meaning to any of it.

JellySaurus · 11/05/2025 13:44

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/05/2025 13:09

No that would make you a trans man or non binary because only men can be trans women. 🙃

RighteousAdvocate said that a transwoman ‘is a woman born…bla bla bla’ - I am a woman born (bla bla bla).

Heyitstara101298 · 15/07/2025 17:08

FlirtsWithRhinos · 08/05/2025 12:29

Exactly.

Such weaseling going on.

The whole bloody point of electronic id is that it's not all or nothing, the system can show you only the fields you are authorised to see.

So if there's no need for your particular check to include sex, you never even see a person's sex marker.

Yes, due to all the (whether by stupidity or deliberate deception) hand wringing about "outing" trans people, Labour, Greens et al just blocked and id system where literally by definition and baked into the system, no one ever (officially anyway🙄) got to know anyone's sex without a needful and audited reason to know it.

Slow handclap guys, is that foot not getting sore from all the shooting?

The reversing of gender markers will never happen. It breaks so many different laws surrounding privacy, dignity and human rights laws in the UK and across Europe. It will never happen and it's not morally correct either way.

Heyitstara101298 · 15/07/2025 17:11

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GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 15/07/2025 17:16

Transwomen are women who have a Gender Dysphoria Diagnosis.

How very transphobic of you. No GRC is required to be trans, no diagnosis is need to be trans, all it takes is saying you are trans.

TheKeatingFive · 15/07/2025 17:20

Why on earth would it be a 'human right' to record lies in official documents?

What extraordinary levels of lunacy has this taken us to?

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