David Tennant graciously wishes accomplished presumed uterus haver no ill will

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“JK Rowling is a wonderful author who’s created brilliant stories, and I wish her no ill will, but I hope that we can all as a society, just let people be. Just get out of people’s way.” So reckons kind and gracious David Tennant. Anyone else reading between the lines here and coming up with something like ‘women just need to stick to writing lovely stories for men to build their careers on, whilst also remembering about the cooking, cleaning and washing instead of drinking cocktails and smoking cigars, and they should just let men do whatever they want, and get out of their way and if they do this then they are most welcome to continue to exist as ideas in men’s heads and in common parlance as non-men, uterus havers, menstruating people and ideally, gestating people’ ?

It’s due to legislation too. Politicians failed so much on this.

We would never legislate the same for other things, as you say for anorexia.

I think it became a sort of bandwagon. No-one wanted to challenge it fearing the accusation of being bigoted. It was all sort of "progressive", when in fact we know it was damaging.

Slightly off topic of DT but I found a video of detransitioners a few days ago. This is some US testimony (a US Genspect meeting) of four young people who have detransitioned. It is really powerful and should be seen by as many people as possible. I'd really recommend anyone to listen to what they have to say - yes, a US context but nevertheless so powerful. I am in awe of their bravery in speaking up and the intelligence with which they talk about what happened to them.

They were all so courageous and articulate but one thing I remember in particular is Soren Aldaco's comment about having been diagnosed with ADHD and her mother speaking to supposed professionals about her transition: she says something like 'This was my Mom, she knew me, she loved me and all of a sudden she was just this bigot'. She also talks about how her Mom watched her grew up, knew her history and that the gender 'specialists' exploited the difficulties in the relationship with her family rather than trying to help to heal it.

I think it's really difficult to listen to the testimony of these four people and not conclude gender affirming 'care' is child abuse.

I’d love to see the video if you could find the link @thenoisiesttermagant- I’m sure I’m not alone.

I don’t know whether we can infer from this that he’s decided to soft pedal it now, though.

This statement that’s been picked up by the press was for a recorded ITV show ”which sees celebrities face questions from a group of autistic, neurodivergent and learning-disabled people” (according to the article) whereas his previous remarks were largely in live speeches at boozy evening LGBT events.

I think both the nature of the event (mainstream recorded show vs fleeting speech) and the immediate audience (room full of TRAs vs regular autistic/LD people) could well be the reasons for his differing choice of words, and I think it’s highly likely that he’s just as vitriolic towards women and just as devoted to the ideology as he always was.

By “decided to soft pedal” I certainly didn’t mean to suggest a sincere change of heart. Maybe it was a simple as a PR person accompanying him? Yet still the “get out of people’s way” remark slipped out, so I agree he’s transparent.

DT has outed his son as Non Binary when he was just 11 years old and still pre pubescent. He and his wife have to run with this now, the poor kid probably can't row back from this as he will make his Dad look daft and he himself will no longer be special.
I noticed that the boy does style himself in a very similiar way to his sister's.

I was born in England, Scottish family on both sides going way back. Moving back to Scotland soon.
I like him 🤷‍♀️ watched his episode of The Assembly last night and found him warm, open and straightforward.

Indeed!

I always wonder what people like DT think about these specific elements.

But I do think that many of these people are just not thinking in any kind of a deep way. Even about what they really men when they say someone is trans, at a language level.

I know a woman who is always posting the stupid memes about DSDs and such. She is a person of normal intelligence, has a degree, but when you press her seems incapable of reflecting, or thinking - maybe there is something wrong here. It's strange but not, I believe, dishonest.

I suspect DT is like that. There is no one in his life who would push back. And his wife is very on-board and honestly even without having a child you are allowing to be used in that way, it can be really hard to differ substantially from your spouse on this stuff. IME there is often one member of a couple who does most of the thinking on these things.

He’s being filmed, he’s acting, you can’t assume that any actor is how they appear on screen, otherwise everyone would have given Anthony Hopkins a wide berth after Silence of the Lambs!

The way people idealise actors never ceases to amaze me, they’re just people, and very needy people at that, they crave validation and adoration, that’s why they choose to be in the public eye, and an awful lot of them are absolute screw ups, look at how many of them and their children end up with drug problems. A celebrity having a trans child is just another version of them having a drug addicted child.

I think this is in part because we have gone from being rigid in one way to being rigid in another.

That is we think kids really have to express their clothing likes and dislikes or somehow they are going to be screwed up.

Rather than just saying - "some clothes are just conventionally appropriate, or not. Sometimes you really can't wear the inappropriate ones without it being offensive. Other times you can but people might make fun of you or just stare. It's just clothes, so if you don't like that, you can just wear something more mundane. Some people like to wear things that make a fuss which is often ok too."

No kid has been seriously harmed for not being allowed to wear pink sparkles.

Of course there’s an element of that but The Assembly is not scripted. The whole point is that the subject’s replies are spontaneous. Pretty hard to act that.

Of course there’s an element of that but The Assembly is not scripted. The whole point is that the subject’s replies are spontaneous. Pretty hard to act that.

Oh, I don't know. I'm sure some actors are very good at faking being a nice, warm person. Though the surprising thing, perhaps, is that some of them don't bother to try.

It’s not pretty hard if you’re an ACTOR is it?! It’s what he’s done for a living for decades, playing many different roles, some of them live on stage. Operating on someone would be pretty hard but not if you’re an established surgeon 🤦‍♀️

Really no need for that emoji, LadyBracknellsHandbagg.

You have to remember that actors get paid to show off in public which is bound to affect how they behave.

He’s had extensive experience of playing a character version of himself though - he did 22 episodes of Staged where he played a scripted, directed version of David Tennant to appear like a spontaneous, non-scripted David Tennant.

Thats the job.

Look up method acting and first meeting stories with other actors.
The "new" actor will explain how some actors who were anything from odd to horrors "on set" because they needed to "be" the role but were nice when off the job.

DT in acted personality swaps in his Dr Who character and the US host Ellen did it onair for years

Both fair points of view (which demonstrate it’s not difficult to have a different opinion without being rude to people).

Can you see it now @BottleBlondeMachiavelli - the link appears for me in my post?!

Yeah I think parents who "trans" their children are very suspect, and this is what is happening here. Sure let them grow their hair or cut it or be as they wish but to put a label on it especially so publicly when so young for kudos is highly dubious. There is definitely a question mark over the mental health of parents who do this, personality disorders, Munchausen's and so on.

It was always about Tennant and his need to be part of the cool gang. Very selfishly he dragged / used his child in this thereby revealing himself to be not only very uncool but exploitative of his own child.

I would get banned from MN if I wrote what I think of parents who use their own children to bolster their self image and who “trans” their child so here’s a 🤬 instead.

He's an absolute loon

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/david-tennant-issues-plea-jk-35124296?utmmedium=Social&utmmsource=Facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR64fsYdtIOCalqRNlk2pgoj7PWDv1iT1wCPtKzYfEaQrky8Q7uS62e6GD15bQaemmi3Re8o0jBV0wmzkFRLeJCw#Echobox=1745760698

He must have a very low IQ

David Tennant has called on JK Rowling to “let people be” and says the row over the rights of transgender people is as “medieval and absurd” as Margaret Thatcher’s divisive Section 28 of 1988. Speaking on ITV’s new interview show The Assembly, the actor is asked why he has become an outspoken ally for the trans community.

He explained: “When I was a teenager there was this thing that Mrs Thatcher’s government introduced called Section 28 which was about stopping the ‘promotion’ of homosexuality in schools - which was basically saying it was illegal to talk about being gay in schools, or to suggest that that might be a normal way of behaving.

“We look back on that now as a medieval, absurd thing to try and say and I think the way the trans community is being demonised is exactly the same.” - Tennant has worked with JK Rowling having appeared in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire as Barty Crouch Jr. Asked how he felt after she publicly criticised his views, he explained: “Listen, J K Rowling is a wonderful author who’s created brilliant stories and I wish her no ill will but I hope that we can all, as a society, let people be. Just get out of people’s way.”

The pair sparred publicly last year after Rowling claimed the Doctor Who star, 53, was part of a “Gender Taliban” when he criticised legal plans to ban trans women from certain spaces, which have recently been passed.
While accepting the Celebrity Ally award at the British LGBT Awards, Tennant argued that “everyone has the right to be who they want to be”. He also branded Rowling and those who share her views on protected spaces for biological women as “a tiny bunch of little whinging f*ers who are on the wrong side of history”.

'Get out of people's way'...while they do what, exactly?

Put rapists in women's prisons?
Attempt to rape little girls in the female toilets at Morrisons?
Force rape victims to refer to their attacker as 'she' and what was done by 'her' penis?

What a sad little man. Just another misogynist. He probably brought up JKR because nobody gives a shit about him by himself.