AntiSocial on Radio 4 just after midday today (25 April)

[nauticant]

AntiSocial on Radio 4 looks each week at one of the rows in the "Culture Wars". As such, it positions itself as being part of the effort in the BBC to counter "misinformation" and while it does do that, there's clearly a strong secondary mission to promote the BBC's version of "progressive values".

This is the question they're dealing with today: What does the Supreme Court ruling on biological sex mean for the health service?

They've had programmes on about drag queens and other matters and tend to paint gender critical views as being somewhat extreme if not bigoted.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002b76x

In other words, Adam Fleming has another opportunity to exhibit his failure to get this is about women and their privacy, safety and dignity. His male centred view of the world runs through his broadcasting like a stick of rock. He never fails to disappoint.

You'll put people off listening!

Sorry, I didn't mean to put people off! Put it down to post menopausal lack of patience with the same old bollocks. Of course it is always worth listening to the 'other side' so we know what we have to deal with.

AntiSocial is one of my favourite hate-listens.

Ooh, they've got Bev Jackson on.

Bev Jackson of LGB Alliance is on!

And then for the other side they've got Cleo Madeleine, Head of Public Engagement at Gendered Intelligence.

Scroll down: genderedintelligence.co.uk/meet-the-team

As ever, the voice.

Michael Foran is on to lay out the background and explain the judgment.

Michael Foran!

Michael Foran covering the SC judgement...

My heart dropped when I saw this advertised because you know, the BBC and Adam Fleming, however Bev is on so will listen.

Let's see what mental gymnastics Fleming uses to spin it, but so far the logic seems glaringly obvious. Childish whinging in a male voice is no match for Bev's clear, crisp reason.

Wait what? The BBC has people on who know what they are going on about!

It’s as if the earth has shifted its axis

I suspect Cleo is going to be sadly unequipped in this discussion.

Cleo disagrees with the SC. I missed where Cleo got Cleo's law degree.

Cleo Madeleine says service providers can elect to provide spaces that are inclusive for transwoman, and in fact Lord Sumption says that trans people should not be excluded as a matter of course.

The man from Glasgow university was very, very clear wasn't he.
the current man is just saying what he wants, not what the law is

This would be better if the contributors were sat together so that they can correct each other.

Michael Foran has a good substack:
https://substack.com/@michaelforan

Cleo has just LIED about the ruling. Why are these people allowed air time on the BBC? I'm sick of it.

Bev Jackson: trans people deserve sympathy but for 10 years they've been misled, and that was done by outfits like Stonewall.

Adam Fleming intervenes to defend Stonewall.

Guess what, Cleo hasn't got a law degree. Cleo has a PhD in English literature.

AF leaps in to defend Stonewall. 😓

Don't know what that random emoji is.