AntiSocial on Radio 4 just after midday today (25 April)

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AntiSocial on Radio 4 looks each week at one of the rows in the "Culture Wars". As such, it positions itself as being part of the effort in the BBC to counter "misinformation" and while it does do that, there's clearly a strong secondary mission to promote the BBC's version of "progressive values".

This is the question they're dealing with today: What does the Supreme Court ruling on biological sex mean for the health service?

They've had programmes on about drag queens and other matters and tend to paint gender critical views as being somewhat extreme if not bigoted.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002b76x

Who is this presenter? Why does he rush over points about stonewall.
Bev is making good points, calmly.

Cleo currently doing the disingenuous thing of pretending Cleo cares deeply about women. Claiming a PCOS friend who may be put on the wrong ward in hospital because she is tall and has facial hair. She goes to a different school.

Cleo is very worried about butch lesbians. Bev points out she's been one for decades and it's a non issue.

Bev points out people upset with the ruling should be upset with the organisations who mislead them for years, not the SC.

Forced teaming and PCOS. We really are in a time warp!
And A&E has never been a single sex space and are exempt from single sex provision just as ITUs are - because either it is an emergency or you have 1-1 high level nursing needs.

Michael Foran’s submission to the SC was singled out by the judges for its clarity.

I think I'm in love (Bev)

Come unarmed to a battle of wits? (I forget who coined this, but I've always liked it.)

Indeed. I think it was Churchill?

This seems astonishingly clear from the BBC.
And a mention of the Telegraph article!

I can imagine Cleo flicking through some hastily prepared TRA guide book on Interview Strategy. He's just done the chapter on Forced Teaming and Butch Lesbians and is getting ready to deploy Whatabout Transmen followed by Denying Our Existence.

Yay, mention of the NHS trust audit!

Bev - it's not about what I'm up for Adam, it's what the law is.

Bev Jackson to Adam Fleming's deflecting: "It's not a matter of what I'm up for, it's a matter of the law".

Seriously?!? Our one? @KnottyAuty, we need to listen!

I turned off the radio in fury after I listened to Cleo's misrepresentation of the ruling. Did Cleo get corrected later on? If so, I won't make the complaint I was about to write to the BBC.

Cleo doesn't want to be a third group. No shit.

As reported in the Telegraph.

Bev is on fire! Questioning whether people will follow the law and what people who don’t agree with it will do!

That’s our one! Woohoo!

Mid-listen here, I came looking for a thread

Adam Fleming: But it will cost and people's taxes will go up!

Bev Jackson: We're supposed to follow the law.

Cleo Madeleine asked if he'd prefer better accommodation (own room). He's waffling but no, he only wants to be with the women.

Bev says most people would love to have their own room in hospital. Cleo doesn't want to argue whether it's nice to have a room of your own. It's about being made welcome.
Jesus.

Adam Fleming to Bev Jackson: (paraphrasing) surely you don't want transwomen to suffer?