Is there any future you'd accept for trans people?

[AYoungTransWoman]

Hello, I'm a young trans person who transitioned in my teens. I've been on hormones my entire adult life, have a GRC and will have Gender Reassignment Surgery imminently.

Is there any future you would accept for people like me who have gone through everything?

What future do you want?

I don't really understand your question?

Your future is what you make it, I wish you every success and happiness.

"Is there any future you would accept for people like me who have gone through everything?"

Accept how? What is it that you are seeking?

Are you seeking that people believe that you have changed sex? Are you seeking that others act as if you have changed sex when your material reality is that you haven't?

Is your decisions to 'go though everything' to be rewarded by society in some way? What is it that you are looking for?

I'll ignore the disingenuous question and assumption of what we think.

Basically, don't be dishonest about your sex, and try not to be sexist (i.e having the attitude that your sex can or cannot "match" a personality type, traits).

Don't conflate gender and sex.

Does that seem acceptable?

Hello. Welcome. I wish for you everything you hope for. Mostly I fervently wish that you never regret the steps you have taken, and that the medical interventions don’t compromise your health, and that you are able to build and maintain good relationships with family and friends. What do you want for yourself?

I hope you have a happy and healthy future. What more do you want?

Presumably the hormones are to alter physical characteristics.

Do you believe that physical characteristics have any bearing whatsoever on whether a person is a woman, man, other, or not?

Pause, pause, pause.
Be kind to yourself.
Take the pressure off.
Consider that you might have done enough. Perhaps you are ok as you are now.
Take the time to consider that perhaps, you always were.

I hope that you get professional advice spelling out exactly how damaging and dangerous that surgery will be, how there will be no going back if you regret it later, that it will not change your sex, and that you can do and be anything that you want to do or be without surgery (or hormones).

Take care.

The right to dress how you like, modify your body how you like, and live a happy life. But not to call yourself female/woman in any context.

I assume by your username you are biologically male and identify as a woman? I too am not sure what you are asking re the future. If you are asking if you’d be accepted as female/a woman then no. As a trans woman then yes. In female only spaces then no .. but you can determine your future.

What future do you see for yourself?

I think also be honest.... with yourself.

Why do you want people to think you are the opposite sex? What assumptions or actions do you think that affects? Are these assumptions legitimate to hold, or are they harmful?

Ask yourself these questions and be honest with yourself.

Your future is what you make it.

But unless you've had ovaries and now no longer do but have testes or vice versa then there is no actual sex change so what difference does any of what you've gone through make to your future? What difference do you think it should make?

I personally think it is cruel that there ever was or will be some expectation that having brutal surgeries will make someone what they simply can never be. And that anyone in society should expect that a person has to do this to be 'accepted' as something they are materially not ever going to be.

I have no issue at all with trans people existing.

Wear what you want, use whatever name you want, love who you want. Fine with me.

But people who were born with penises should never be allowed to use women’s private spaces such as toilets, changing room, shelters, rape centres etc.

This.

What do you want?
Your future is largely in your own hands

Your future is yours to build for yourself and I hope it is a long and happy one.

You can wear what you wish, love who you love, believe what you want and understand that others do not share your beliefs, and accept that no matter what modifications you make to your body or medications you take, you are male and that will never change.

Reject society's sexist stereotypes, and build the life you wish to lead as a man! You are enough and perfect just as you are.

The future I want for you is full of joy fun and acceptance.

For you to evolve into the person you want to be and to show kindness and compassion. Take care and I wish you well x

I am fine with you doing whatever you like to your own body, it’s your own body and not mine. Wear whatever clothes you like too as they shouldn’t be sex specific anyway, I don’t care if you want to wear a dress or trousers or anything else. You can also change your name to whatever you want of course. But don’t pretend you are female because you are not, don’t use female only spaces like toilets and changing rooms because you are not female.

I think the legal protections you have are pretty sufficient and I hope you can live a happy and peaceful life free from unlawful discrimination. However, you cannot force people to see or treat you as the opposite sex if they are unable or unwilling to do so.

Surgeries and certificates don't make someone the sex they are materially not.

No male person can ever experience life as a woman. They can only ever experience life as a male person who believes they are a woman.

Even when they 'act' like a woman, they are acting as they believe a 'woman' should act. Which is fucking misogynistic!

Even if they are treated 'as a woman' by some people, they are being treated as a 'male who presents as a woman and believes they are a woman'. Because their every reaction is based on that. Not on them being female in any way.
Even when they have extreme body modifications, it is to be their own concept of what a female looks like to them. It is not what a female is.

How can it be?

The only way a person can experience life as a woman, is to have a female body, formed around the production of large gametes, even if it doesn't produce those and to navigate their life based on the decisions they and society makes that revolve around them having that body.

And no male can have that body, not matter what chemicals or surgeries they have.

A male can conceptualise what it might be like to be a female, but that is all it ever is - their concept of being female.

They may do it because they don't feel they fit into how they conceptualise how a male person interacts with the world (ie. their own stereotypes around being male) or they do it because they want to be seen as a female (using their own stereotypes of how a female navigates life). It really doesn't matter though. Their motivation is irrelevant to the outcome. And I consider the outcome can only be described as misogyny.

Which is that they will always be just a male who believes they are something they are objectively not.

How can the material reality be any different? This is why someone's gender is only based on someone's philosophical belief. And philosophical beliefs are fine for people to hold, but not one person in the UK has to comply with another's philosophical belief.

The logic cannot be any different than that I am afraid.

Gosh. Big question. I wish you health, happiness, love, respect and success. I wish you understanding.

I want you to understand that women need, deserve and are entitled to single sex spaces which will exclude you.

in other words I wish for you to have respect and understanding of others, especially those who inhabit your desired identity.

You can have whatever future you want. And I firmly believe that you should not be discriminated against when it comes to employment and housing etc. But you are not, and will never be a woman and should not be accessing women’s spaces. Most people, including myself, have no issue with men who wish to present as women so long as they stop expecting us to actually pretend they are women.