Imane Khelif not eligible to compete in boxing world championships 2025

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https://boxingnewsonline.net/iba-confirms-stance-on-imane-khelif-ahead-of-womens-boxing-world-championships/

The IBA is sticking with its rules and Khelif failed its 'gender eligibility tests'. The writer of the article shows remarkably little concern with saying what a 'gender eligibility test' involves and that it shows Khelif is male.

Khelif is biologically male or at best ambiguous, blood tests have shown this.
Not a woman and should not be given prizes for punching them

IK has gone awfully quiet on suing a certain female author hasn't he. Funny that.

The IBA is not allowed to publish the test results without the agreement of the people concerned.

Now why would Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting refuse to consent to the publication of the test results? If the tests proved that they were biologically female, surely they'd be only too glad to do so.

You want them to publish someone's personal medical information showing that they are biologically male?

‘I'd feel sorry for him, but I think Algeria is treating him well, and I think he looked well cool in that Vogue fashion shoot, and I hope he forges a successful new occupation as a model’

Last night, I was watching Mary Beard’s Roman programme which was largely shot in Algeria. Lots of location shots in markets and busy streets , and in cafes. There was not a single woman amongst the many shown who was not wearing a modest, full length Islamic garment, and a hijab. Several were fully veiled ( what used to be called a yashmak). There were no women at all In The cafes.

So Algeria is ‘treating him well’, because they are treating him as a man ( which of course is justified).

PS. A model of which sex?

Perhaps you should ask yourself why you are quite so enthusiastic to accept, indeed celebrate, a man not only repeatedly punching a woman but also taking her rightful place in an Olympic sport?

It wasn't suing, as such, but a complaint filed with the hate crime unit in the Paris prosecutor's office in August last year.

Since then, silence.

Exactly. Do you really think an Algerian national coach would do this to a Muslim woman? Imane is a Muslim by the way.

Khelif's own coach confirmed that their own genetic testing confirmed a male karyotype chromosomes and hormones.

https://www.lepoint.fr/sport/exclusif-jo-2024-imane-khelif-a-ete-aneantie-de-decouvrir-d-un-seul-coup-qu-elle-pourrait-ne-pas-etre-une-fille-09-08-2024-2567609_26.php

"despite its karyotype and testosterone levels. He said, "There's a problem with his hormones, with her chromosomes, but she's a woman"

So male karyotype, male chromosomes, male testosterone. "Woman" here is in the sociolinguistic and postmodern sense of "it means whatever I want it to mean"

You think that a female boxer is being penalised for just being hench? 🤣🤣 All female boxers are well built! Of course there is more to it or half the female boxers would be banned for not 'looking feminine!'

Its worth remembering that the eligibility test for the Olympic women's boxing was whether it said female in a boxers passport.

Even the Guardian - the wokest newspaper in the world - has basically admitted that Yu-ting and Khelif are male. It ran a whole article about the fact more boxing organisations are bringing in sex testing, so the future was uncertain for these two boxers.

After the show: what happened next to Olympic gender row boxers? | Boxing | The Guardian

Again, it looks like you haven't been following this case in much detail:
a French news website, Le Correspondant, published a report by the journalist Djaffer Ait Aoudia which revealed that Khelif has been found to have 5-alpha reductase deficiency, a DSD that is only found in biological males. So he's male.

This didn't come as a big surprise because in an interview in the French magazine Le Point, Georges Cazola, a member of IK's own team freely acknowledged that he had "a chromosome issue" and had been devastated to learn that he "might not be a girl".

You don't have to invoke the dodgy IBA or opaque criteria. The evidence is in the public domain, and the discussion has moved on, there's no going back to 'she is just a big girl' or 'basketball players are tall'.

My post was in response to
SophieStrange · Today 14:03
No evidence has ever been presented that Khelif is anything other than a naturally-born woman, nor that she is affected by any sort of chromosomal medical condition. It’s a curious thing to celebrate a woman being excluded from her sport simply for being born with a physique that advantages her in it.
Will we be forbidding tall people from basketball next?

Ask yourself why you are quite so enthusiastic to accept, indeed celebrate, an arbitrary decision made by the men of the IBA to opaque criteria without published evidence to support it.

I celebrate the application of objective, material criteria for eligibility to participate in the female category. It's far from an arbitrary position.

I don't want/expect them to publish findings from cheek swabs or blood tests unless athletes consent to this.

@SophieStrange, your posts read as though you are grasping at straws rather than engaging in the distinctive arguments (e.g the IBA decision makers are men, they don't publish the results of tests etc.). Do you think that makes athletes with DSDs should be able to compete in the women's category? This is the issue arising.

He has internal testes. What other evidence would you like?

Oh good grief, are people still claiming that Khelif is a woman?!

I am so glad that he is barred from competing. It's disgraceful and disgusting that it was ever allowed.

LOL

It's obviously an unfortunate set of circumstances for Khelif, who was apparently socialised as a girl pre puberty - but the true sex is very obvious, and to all intents and purposes Khelif has presented as male pretty much all of their adult life ( except for occasional staged media shots in the algerian press):

Khelif sighed to accept that he is not eligible to compete in the female boxing category.

The part of the regulations stated means he cannot have XX chromosomes.

www.iba.sport/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Letter-to-Imane-Khelif-Receipt-acknowledged.pdf

Men like Khelif and Caster Semenya, who have 46 XY 5ARD, are typically born with a small penis and undescended testicles. This means that at birth the may be mistaken for having a vulva. However they go through male puberty, at which point their voices break and the testosterone flooding their bodies means they develop a male physique. In fact a colloquial names for this DSD is 'penis at 12'.

Caster Semenya has misleadingly said in the press that he was brought up as a woman, but then in interviews he's also said that he never played with girls because 'they are soft'. He's also published a photo of himself as a teen wearing nothing but men's swimming trunks. This suggests that he knew he was male at least since puberty.

My personal opinion is that when your voice breaks and you never have periods it's a pretty big clue. I can understand that people who haven't been following the Olympics might think that Mumsnet are a load of meanies for being angry about men with 46 XY 5ARD competing in women's sports, but we're reserving our sympathy for the women who should have been given the medals.

At the Rio Olympics, all three medal winners in the women's 800m were men with 46 XY 5ARD.

@SophieStrange - people like you are really damaging for women's rights.

WHY are you defending him?

The evidence is really clear, read the thread several times over if you need to piece it together. There's links included throughout. Your only point seems to be that no evidence has been published - but a bit of critical thinking would tell you that's absurd - would you give consent for your medical details to be published if they weren't in your interest? Or indeed anyway.

And - you can see his blooming cock in photos!!

I don't believe for one second that you're not well aware that khelif is male.

So, why???

Who do you think you're protecting?

This bloke, who knew he was a bloke when he went through male puberty was cheered on for punching women on stage.

And you are supporting that.

Shame on you.

No Muslim woman would wear what he's wearing without a headscarf and act like he does with other males.

This is very well explained, thank you