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Imane Khelif not eligible to compete in boxing world championships 2025

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Lovelyview · 06/02/2025 22:33

https://boxingnewsonline.net/iba-confirms-stance-on-imane-khelif-ahead-of-womens-boxing-world-championships/

The IBA is sticking with its rules and Khelif failed its 'gender eligibility tests'. The writer of the article shows remarkably little concern with saying what a 'gender eligibility test' involves and that it shows Khelif is male.

Imane Khelif

IBA Confirms Stance On Imane Khelif Ahead Of Women’s Boxing World Championships

IMANE Khelif is not eligible to compete in the 2025 Women’s World Boxing Championships following her gold medal victory at the Paris 2024 Olympic Games.

https://boxingnewsonline.net/iba-confirms-stance-on-imane-khelif-ahead-of-womens-boxing-world-championships

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porridgecake · 20/03/2025 04:15

I have just watched the ITV news and that interview on catch up.
I have no words.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 20/03/2025 04:48

porridgecake · 20/03/2025 04:15

I have just watched the ITV news and that interview on catch up.
I have no words.

Same!

NotBadConsidering · 20/03/2025 05:28

And here we are, ongoing with the derail, wasting time discussing Putin’s political ideals instead of an Algerian man and a Taiwanese man being allowed to punch women at the Olympics. All because someone wanted to blame Russia for misinformation. Let’s get back on the topic of the thread, shall we?

Helleofabore · 20/03/2025 06:50

Today is a significant day. Will the IOC be led by someone who will protect female sports?

Philosophies · 20/03/2025 06:56

NotBadConsidering · 20/03/2025 05:28

And here we are, ongoing with the derail, wasting time discussing Putin’s political ideals instead of an Algerian man and a Taiwanese man being allowed to punch women at the Olympics. All because someone wanted to blame Russia for misinformation. Let’s get back on the topic of the thread, shall we?

Apologies if you feel it’s a waste of time. However, boxing occurs in a geopolitical environment, so up-to-date knowledge is handy. These particular bouts? An extreme politically-charged arena. That can’t be denied.

TheKeatingFive · 20/03/2025 07:25

Helleofabore · 20/03/2025 06:50

Today is a significant day. Will the IOC be led by someone who will protect female sports?

I hope Coe prevails

porridgecake · 20/03/2025 07:48

NotBadConsidering · 20/03/2025 05:28

And here we are, ongoing with the derail, wasting time discussing Putin’s political ideals instead of an Algerian man and a Taiwanese man being allowed to punch women at the Olympics. All because someone wanted to blame Russia for misinformation. Let’s get back on the topic of the thread, shall we?

Never underestimate how far, wide and deep the creation and promotion of this whole ideology goes. Take away the rights, speech and safety of half the population and addle the minds of the other half with porn, gaming and misogyny and you can control everyone. Capture every institution and it is easy.

Igmum · 20/03/2025 16:02

IOC president is Kirsty Coventry, a Zimbabwean gold medalist, anyone know her views on men stealing women’s medals?

Helleofabore · 20/03/2025 16:10

Wow! I thought it was later.

She lately came out and said she supported female only sport. But I cannot remember to what degree.

ArabellaScott · 20/03/2025 16:12

'backing a blanket ban of transgender women from competing in female Olympic sport'

Can't find anything on her views on males with DSDs, yet.

Helleofabore · 20/03/2025 16:12

I think women are going to have to get campaigning. I think she will not be as protective as we want.

ArabellaScott · 20/03/2025 16:15

Kirsty Coventry, IOC Presidential candidate: 'I don’t believe [the boxing fiasco] is something in hindsight that we could have predicted'.

https://x.com/cathydevine56/status/1884007637307863543

https://x.com/cathydevine56/status/1884007637307863543

ArabellaScott · 20/03/2025 16:17

“Protecting the female category and female sports is paramount – it’s a priority that we collectively come together,” said Coventry, who won seven Olympic medals, including two gold, in swimming.
“There is more and more scientific research. We are not having a conversation about how it is detrimental to men’s sport. That, in itself, says we need to protect women’s sport. It is very clear that transgender women are more able in the female category, and can take away opportunities that should be equal for women.”
Coventry was also part of the executive board that handled the huge Olympic controversy in Paris when <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/JgJy1/www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2024/08/04/boxing-paris-2024-live-lin-yu-ting-gender-row-latest-update/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lin Yu-ting and <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/JgJy1/www.telegraph.co.uk/ImaneKhelif/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Imane Khelif won gold after they were previously deemed ineligible for the female category by the International Boxing Association; a governing body that was subsequently stripped of the right to run the sport. Coventry said that “lessons are always going to be learnt – Paris is definitely one of those times”, but claimed that they could not have foreseen the specific controversy.

“I don’t believe that this is something in hindsight that we could have predicted, because these boxers had bouts against each other and there hadn’t been previous issues,” she said.
“When you have such a sensitive issue being put on the global stage you have to make sure that the athletes are being protected – that their rights are being heard – and that they are being protected on both sides.”

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2025.01.27-195232/www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2025/01/27/transgender-athletes-face-blanket-ban-at-olympics#selection-2903.0-2933.215" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2025.01.27-195232/www.telegraph.co.uk/olympics/2025/01/27/transgender-athletes-face-blanket-ban-at-olympics/#selection-2903.0-2933.215

Helleofabore · 20/03/2025 16:38

ArabellaScott · 20/03/2025 16:15

Kirsty Coventry, IOC Presidential candidate: 'I don’t believe [the boxing fiasco] is something in hindsight that we could have predicted'.

https://x.com/cathydevine56/status/1884007637307863543

yeah.... I think that she will be all for allowing DSD athletes in, but I could be wrong. I hope I am wrong.

ArabellaScott · 20/03/2025 17:04

'The bitterness of the dispute underpins the urgency as World Boxing tries to bring clarity to a deeply emotive subject. “It’s an extremely complex issue with significant welfare concerns,” Van der Vorst said.

“We have established a working group in line with our medical committee which will develop a sex, age and weight policy. They’re working with medical evidence from a wide range of experts across the world, including the Independent Council for Women’s Sports.

Lin Yu-ting, like Imane Khelif, has not applied for entry to the World Boxing Cup that takes place at the end of March. Photograph: David Levene/The Guardian
“They’re developing an updated policy that will determine the eligibility of boxers to participate in World Boxing competitions. It’s important we can deliver a competitive level-playing field for men and women that assures the safety of everyone involved.”

It has been a seismic week for World Boxing after the International Olympic Committee president, Thomas Bach, announced on Monday that his executive board supported the sport’s inclusion at the 2028 Olympics in LA. Until the emergence of World Boxing, which had been founded in 2023 by Van der Vorst in a desperate attempt to salvage boxing’s Olympic future, the IOC had banished the sport to the sporting wilderness.

After suspending the International Boxing Association, the sport’s disgraced former governing body, the IOC had been in charge of the tournament in Paris. The gender eligibility argument became the most acrimonious sporting story of the year. At the 2023 world championships Lin took a swab test that, according to the IBA, contained enough male chromosomes to disqualify her from the women’s event. Khelif had recorded similar results in a test conducted by the IBA. Both boxers had been classified at birth as female and had lived as girls before competing as women.

Van der Vorst said: “I really don’t want to comment about individual boxers. But there’s a lot of misunderstanding when I hear people speaking about transgender athletes. It’s very offensive and misleading because there are no transgenders in boxing. Maybe there is some gender diversity, but that’s something for experts and for us to define in a policy.”

“I’m for all the boxers. What happened in Paris was very sad and I felt there was no proper procedure based on the accusations from the previous international federation [the IBA]. That felt very inappropriate to me.”
Van der Vorst also said that “sometimes these cases are used for political issues and I want to stay away from it. The main objective is to have a level playing-field that assures safety for all participants. We are waiting for the policy from our experts, but the priority for me is sporting integrity and safety.”

In the Olympics boxing arena, facts and fairness are taking a battering | Barney Ronay

Hugely complex, essentially irresolvable issues have been flattened in the toxic furore over the inclusion of Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif in the women’s competition

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/aug/02/boxing-imane-khelif-lin-yu-ting-facts-fairness-battering

ArabellaScott · 20/03/2025 17:05

Call me a raging optimist, but he's talking about safety, not inclusion.

I'm hopeful this means men will not be punching women in the face as an Olympic sport, going forward.

ArabellaScott · 20/03/2025 17:06

'We have established a working group in line with our medical committee which will develop a sex, age and weight policy. They’re working with medical evidence from a wide range of experts across the world, including the Independent Council for Women’s Sports.'

ICONS are sensible, no?

BabaYagasHouse · 20/03/2025 17:42

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This reply has been hidden until the MNHQ team can have a look at it.

BabaYagasHouse · 20/03/2025 17:46

Huh?
Why hidden?
Link to ICONS website!

iconswomen.com

There was a thread on here ages ago linking to their 2023 summit/conference- where Helen Joyce, coach Linda Blade, and Riley Gaines amongst many others all spoke.

Weird!

BabaYagasHouse · 20/03/2025 17:47

Just saying it would be extremely hopeful if they were involved

Helleofabore · 20/03/2025 17:57

Oh wow! That will be quick.

Still, I am not greatly hopeful.

duc748 · 20/03/2025 18:18

That Guardian piece about World Boxing: it's so incredibly complex, so difficult, experts from all over the world...

Is it? is it really? Seems pretty straightforward to me. Tell me what's difficult about it.

TheKeatingFive · 20/03/2025 18:45

duc748 · 20/03/2025 18:18

That Guardian piece about World Boxing: it's so incredibly complex, so difficult, experts from all over the world...

Is it? is it really? Seems pretty straightforward to me. Tell me what's difficult about it.

It isn't complex at all.

But they have to pretend it is to bamboozle people into not questioning their support of men beating up women in the name of sport

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