NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #5

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2

Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3

Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4

I don't think it will intimidate NC, and SP has Maya etc. with her so hopefully is ok

Panel has arrived

Judge needs to address some issues first.

Still over 109 in lobby

Do you mean amount for settlement?

And we're off!

Are they using a potato to stream this? The quality of the picture is bloody terrible. The sound sucks too.

WFTCHTJ - does that mean I should be eventually let in?

Anyone want a jammie wagon wheel? Crackers and wensleydale with Ballymaloo relish?

I do like the way NC says 'issues' - it sounds v. posh😂

Sandie has a wall of support too, though only virtually. There wouldn’t be enough seats for us in person.

NC bringing up some issues

Finally under 100 waiting

Eek! My post was completely ambiguous! I meant people watching.

Yes! Unless both sides have enough money and determination to make it a test case. Is that possibly the case here?

Still letting people in. About 50 to go

I’m just in

So NC says one of the issues is that the respondents have failed to produce relevant documents in compliance with a disclosure order.

The BMA emails?

Yes! I was wondering about this upthread. How much longer can they allow that to drag on?

Lobby seems to now be empty, so if you're not in you may want to try again!

I'm in whooo

NC really needs to be closer to her mic. I think the system has software to detect the start of speech and because it's missing the very start of hers it's sounding very choppy.

That's my guess too.

I'm missing what NC is bringing up as the sound is so crackly

I think it's emails about how/why NHS Fife decided this was something which warranted suspension

Hey, don't underestimate the power of the potato! If we could post pictures, I'd post one of a clock run by a potato - a potato would probably be doing a much better job of streaming this

Labelling a complaint 'hate incident' doesn't suggest that one is open to an impartial investigation, no?