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NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #5

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nauticant · 06/02/2025 17:34

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2

Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3

Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4

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ThatPithySheep · 07/02/2025 11:43
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I'm in!

bumbledenbarsk · 07/02/2025 11:43

Ah bugger it! I've emailed and asked for access. No work being done today, at all!!!

Boiledbeetle · 07/02/2025 11:43

AMillionMugsNoTeabags · 07/02/2025 11:41

If I’m WFTCHTJ, does that mean I’m in the lobby?

Yes you and 185 others

katmarie · 07/02/2025 11:43

OK I'm in. I take it the bunch of people st behind DU are the 'supporters'? That is quite intimidating.

MarieDeGournay · 07/02/2025 11:43

myplace · 07/02/2025 11:39

It’s really important the incorrect statement about the reason for extra security isn’t spread about.

That would be wrong. He needs to stand on his own errors, not extra made up ones!

Absolutely, myplace, and thank you to the other posters who have given the correct explanation. Adding inaccuracies to the list of things Dr Upton did and said is... whatever the negative of 'gilding the lily' is!

'Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof'Smile

FannyCann · 07/02/2025 11:43

There's been so much to catch up on with these threads and Tribunal tweets and other things going on this week. Thanks for the threads as work has annoyingly come between me and the chance to watch proceedings live.
It's my afternoon off today, home soon after 2pm. Do we think there will be some live action I can watch then? 🤞

NotAtMyAge · 07/02/2025 11:43

CriticalCondition · 07/02/2025 11:42

The support team are out in full behind Upton.

Of course they are. 🙄

FeralWoman · 07/02/2025 11:43

WFTCHTJ · 07/02/2025 11:42

I hope we're not reaching the kind of numbers where the software falls over under the strain

They could just livestream on YouTube like Australian courts do.

Will the messages covering the screen be removed?

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 07/02/2025 11:43

160

ArabellaScott · 07/02/2025 11:44

Signalbox · 07/02/2025 11:40

Yes. Please can people stop making stuff up!

Yes, indeed. The security kittens is also completely untrue, I'd like to clarify.

Mayaisashero · 07/02/2025 11:44

TriesNotToBeCynical · 07/02/2025 11:36

It could be. But if they offer a money settlement more than the court would award then the other side cannot afford to refuse it because of costs. And in that case Fife don't have to agree to anything or, indeed, even admit liability or fault.

But how can anyone have a fair trial if that's the case? It means any organisation with money will always win - as soon as it goes their way they do this, and don't admit fault.

HPFA · 07/02/2025 11:44

I should have been at work today but a colleague asked to swop days a few weeks ago!

Weird how things turn out!

ArabellaScott · 07/02/2025 11:44

FannyCann · 07/02/2025 11:43

There's been so much to catch up on with these threads and Tribunal tweets and other things going on this week. Thanks for the threads as work has annoyingly come between me and the chance to watch proceedings live.
It's my afternoon off today, home soon after 2pm. Do we think there will be some live action I can watch then? 🤞

Yes.

chilling19 · 07/02/2025 11:44

In!

musicalfrog · 07/02/2025 11:44

whistles

That's a lot of people. 150 in the lobby, and already about 200 in?

Szygy · 07/02/2025 11:44

Hooray, I’m finally in (though WFTCHTJ, but that’s progress!)

EasternStandard · 07/02/2025 11:44

I'm in

Mayaisashero · 07/02/2025 11:45

katmarie · 07/02/2025 11:43

OK I'm in. I take it the bunch of people st behind DU are the 'supporters'? That is quite intimidating.

Yes, it's very unfair IMO.

Boiledbeetle · 07/02/2025 11:45

FannyCann · 07/02/2025 11:43

There's been so much to catch up on with these threads and Tribunal tweets and other things going on this week. Thanks for the threads as work has annoyingly come between me and the chance to watch proceedings live.
It's my afternoon off today, home soon after 2pm. Do we think there will be some live action I can watch then? 🤞

There should be as they are very behind now!

115 waiting

GrumpyMenopausalWombWielder · 07/02/2025 11:45

I can't get on via the phone option cos it's just 'waiting for the host to join' & blocks my internet access on my phone while dialled in. I'll just need to follow here/X instead.

nauticant · 07/02/2025 11:45

If I recall correctly, the other "big" Employment Tribunals seemed to top out at round about 100-150. Is that right?

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PoshCoffee · 07/02/2025 11:45

I’m in! He doesn’t look quite as cocky as he was yesterday

Ineedashero · 07/02/2025 11:46

I'm still waiting :(

musicalfrog · 07/02/2025 11:46

PoshCoffee · 07/02/2025 11:45

I’m in! He doesn’t look quite as cocky as he was yesterday

Bit of a 'slapped arse' look about him I thought.

ArabellaScott · 07/02/2025 11:46

Here comes the Judge.

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