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NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #5

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nauticant · 06/02/2025 17:34

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2

Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3

Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4

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TWETMIRF · 07/02/2025 10:04

It's a bit early for us to be let in to see

Mayaisashero · 07/02/2025 10:05

GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 07/02/2025 09:45

So what you are saying is under female on the CR door it should say 'may contain nuts'? 🌰🌰

😂That would be a start. I'd be in favour of that. I think we need large stickers to that effect to ensure the truth is available where companies are lying about their facilities to employees / consumers.

katmarie · 07/02/2025 10:08

Are we all still waiting?

TWETMIRF · 07/02/2025 10:08

I am

BonerOfContention · 07/02/2025 10:08

katmarie · 07/02/2025 10:08

Are we all still waiting?

I am waiting

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 07/02/2025 10:08

Shameless placemarking so I can follow this throughout the day.

I saw the picture of yer man all wrapped up with his defensive posse surrounding him like armed guards - pretty pathetic.

We're all rooting for you Sandie.

LadyDanburysHat · 07/02/2025 10:10

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 07/02/2025 10:08

Shameless placemarking so I can follow this throughout the day.

I saw the picture of yer man all wrapped up with his defensive posse surrounding him like armed guards - pretty pathetic.

We're all rooting for you Sandie.

So pathetic to need to hide his face and be surrounded by people like some little waif.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 07/02/2025 10:10

Still WFTCHTJ

NotMaroonButRaspberry · 07/02/2025 10:12

LadyDanburysHat · 07/02/2025 10:10

So pathetic to need to hide his face and be surrounded by people like some little waif.

I felt it came across more sinister than vulnerable

FarriersGirl · 07/02/2025 10:12

Me too..

JasmineAllen · 07/02/2025 10:12

AnnaMagnani · 07/02/2025 10:00

@NotAGentleReminder a long time ago I had a job in teenage cancer care.

It was very frequent for a sibling of the affected teen to be anorexic.

I'd not be surprised if that had swapped to trans. I've definitely seen teens respond to the trauma of a terminally ill parent by developing a trans identity.

That is very interesting to me personally. 2 of our children were diagnosed with serious life long illnesses a few years apart. Thankfully not terminal but they will both have to deal with the medication and consequences for the rest of their lives.
As you can imagine it's been very stressful.
Within 6 months of the second diagnosis our youngest child developed anorexia, completely out of the blue and has been mentally unwell ever since.

If you know of any research about this phenomenon I'd appreciate it please.

Faffertea · 07/02/2025 10:12

What’s WFTCHTJ?

LadyDanburysHat · 07/02/2025 10:12

Definitely. It screams, what are you hiding?

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 07/02/2025 10:13

Like the fragrant Isla Bryson hiding his lovely face. 🤨

katmarie · 07/02/2025 10:13

Faffertea · 07/02/2025 10:12

What’s WFTCHTJ?

Waiting For The Conference Host To Join

BarryKentPoet · 07/02/2025 10:14

Faffertea · 07/02/2025 10:12

What’s WFTCHTJ?

I was trying to work it out too until I heard the voice in the waiting lobby 😆

myplace · 07/02/2025 10:14

It’s a tricky dilemma for him.
When I see the image with the woolly hat and scarf, it really draws attention to the brow ridge. Wearing glasses and a different hat would help with that.

mzdemeanour · 07/02/2025 10:14

@Faffertea waiting for the conference host to join - the message you get waiting to be admitted

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 07/02/2025 10:14

Faffertea · 07/02/2025 10:12

What’s WFTCHTJ?

Waiting for the conference host to join.

We're on hold, basically.

Gettingmadderallthetime · 07/02/2025 10:14

Faffertea · 07/02/2025 10:12

What’s WFTCHTJ?

Waiting for the conference host to join - i.e. Not yet ready to start online viewing

Jacopo · 07/02/2025 10:14

For those who asked earlier in the thread, he got married in 2021, to a young and definitely female woman.

Appalonia · 07/02/2025 10:14

Are we taking bets?

myplace · 07/02/2025 10:15

JasmineAllen · 07/02/2025 10:12

That is very interesting to me personally. 2 of our children were diagnosed with serious life long illnesses a few years apart. Thankfully not terminal but they will both have to deal with the medication and consequences for the rest of their lives.
As you can imagine it's been very stressful.
Within 6 months of the second diagnosis our youngest child developed anorexia, completely out of the blue and has been mentally unwell ever since.

If you know of any research about this phenomenon I'd appreciate it please.

I’m so sorry. That’s a very challenging situation.

BTshun · 07/02/2025 10:15

JasmineAllen · 07/02/2025 07:54

WTF, The Times refers to SP as 'a Trump supporter' 🙄

I've no idea if SP is full on maga or merely agrees with something he once said but I do know any political affiliations are not relevant to this case.

I'm surprised at The Times.

Also surprised at The Times. I happen to agree with plenty of what Trump says. As a human being, I don't care for him, but I agree with some of his policies. Doesn't make me a full on MAGA-fiend. You realise the bias of some of these so-called respectable broadsheets. It's embarassing.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/02/2025 10:15

I think he'll turn up, he'll think he owes it to his people, and he probably thinks that he's right so won't be worried about questioning

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