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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

French Gynaecologist Suspended for refusing to treat a TW

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TwistedWonder · 30/01/2025 16:03

https://reduxx.info/france-gynecologist-suspended-from-practice-after-lgbt-organization-files-transphobia-complaint/

Despite telling the TW it wasn’t his area of expertise and offering to refer him he’s deemed transphobic apparently.

FFS make this BS stop

FRANCE: Gynecologist Suspended From Practice After LGBT Organization Files "Transphobia" Complaint - Reduxx

A French gynecologist has been sanctioned by medical authorities after a trans activist group reported him to the Minister of Equality for comments which they deemed to be “transphobic.” Dr. Victor Acharian, who operates in the Pau region, has been pro...

https://reduxx.info/france-gynecologist-suspended-from-practice-after-lgbt-organization-files-transphobia-complaint

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caramac04 · 30/01/2025 16:08

How ridiculous! Meanwhile women are unable to visit this gynaecologist whom they may have been receiving treatment from and felt comfortable with. I don’t know how many women this will have affected but it’s more than one I’m sure.
Women suffering for a man’s ego? Surely not?!

MsGrahamCheese · 30/01/2025 16:11

I suspect its less to do with him turning her away due to lack of expertise for trans women & more due fo his public transpobic response on social media

TwistedWonder · 30/01/2025 16:12

On December 16, 2024, the Conseil National de l’Ordre des Médecins sentenced Acharian to a five-month suspension, followed by a one-month probationary period. During that time, if the gynecologist is found to have engaged in transphobia or denied another trans-identified male patient, he would be sanctioned again.

WTAF??? So a highly trained doctor who specialises in reproductive and genital health for biological women must accept men as patients otherwise bf punished! JFC

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 30/01/2025 16:14

Speaking the truth is being punished everywhere. Of course it's legitimate for a gynaecologist to refuse to treat a man presenting with male organs or a facsimile of a woman's body.
This shows it's the only way men are able to wedge their way into women's spaces and services - by using threats and intimidation.

BobbyBiscuits · 30/01/2025 16:15

How can a gynae treat someone without female reproductive organs.
They would look at the genital area, say, 'there is no vagina, they need to be treated by a urologist or male GUM expert.'
Utterly bizarre.

Runor · 30/01/2025 16:15

MsGrahamCheese · 30/01/2025 16:11

I suspect its less to do with him turning her away due to lack of expertise for trans women & more due fo his public transpobic response on social media

What transphobia was that? I can see in the image above that he refers to men and women, but as any doctor, surely he has to accurately identify his patients’ sex?!

Runor · 30/01/2025 16:17

BobbyBiscuits · 30/01/2025 16:15

How can a gynae treat someone without female reproductive organs.
They would look at the genital area, say, 'there is no vagina, they need to be treated by a urologist or male GUM expert.'
Utterly bizarre.

Quite! Hadn’t crossed anybody’s mind (apparently 🙄) that the prospective patient is only in this for the sexual thrill?!

TwistedWonder · 30/01/2025 16:19

caramac04 · 30/01/2025 16:08

How ridiculous! Meanwhile women are unable to visit this gynaecologist whom they may have been receiving treatment from and felt comfortable with. I don’t know how many women this will have affected but it’s more than one I’m sure.
Women suffering for a man’s ego? Surely not?!

Yep. So actual women who need to visit him are unable to for 5/6 months due to an entitled men stamping his feet.

This is all far too familiar

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InvisibleDragon · 30/01/2025 16:51

I'm going to go against the grain and say that his message, as shown in the image above, is unnecessarily rude and dismissive. It says:

SIR,
I am a gynaecologist and I look after real women. I am not qualified to look after MEN, even if they shave their beard and come to tell my secretary that they have become women. My GYNAECOLOGICAL examination table is not adapted for examining men. You have specialised and extremely competent services to look after men like you.

Whilst I understand the factual position that a gynaecologist works with female reproductive organs, to repeatedly refer to the client as a man, sir and so on is inflammatory and not particularly helpful to anyone.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 30/01/2025 16:56

InvisibleDragon · 30/01/2025 16:51

I'm going to go against the grain and say that his message, as shown in the image above, is unnecessarily rude and dismissive. It says:

SIR,
I am a gynaecologist and I look after real women. I am not qualified to look after MEN, even if they shave their beard and come to tell my secretary that they have become women. My GYNAECOLOGICAL examination table is not adapted for examining men. You have specialised and extremely competent services to look after men like you.

Whilst I understand the factual position that a gynaecologist works with female reproductive organs, to repeatedly refer to the client as a man, sir and so on is inflammatory and not particularly helpful to anyone.

I find nothing wrong with that response whatsoever. It sounds more exasperated than offensive, it could be the man tried many times to make an appointment but wouldn't take no for an answer.

IDareSay · 30/01/2025 16:57

Why should anyone pacify these men? The message is factual. I am heartily sick of having to tiptoe around these men and their 'special' feelings; a dose of reality is what is needed.

OldCrone · 30/01/2025 16:57

InvisibleDragon · 30/01/2025 16:51

I'm going to go against the grain and say that his message, as shown in the image above, is unnecessarily rude and dismissive. It says:

SIR,
I am a gynaecologist and I look after real women. I am not qualified to look after MEN, even if they shave their beard and come to tell my secretary that they have become women. My GYNAECOLOGICAL examination table is not adapted for examining men. You have specialised and extremely competent services to look after men like you.

Whilst I understand the factual position that a gynaecologist works with female reproductive organs, to repeatedly refer to the client as a man, sir and so on is inflammatory and not particularly helpful to anyone.

How is it inflammatory to refer to a man as a man? It's just stating a fact. This man shouldn't have been wasting the gynaecologist's time by demanding an appointment.

It's time everyone stopped pandering to these entitled men's demands and participating in their fantasies.

UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 30/01/2025 16:58

InvisibleDragon · 30/01/2025 16:51

I'm going to go against the grain and say that his message, as shown in the image above, is unnecessarily rude and dismissive. It says:

SIR,
I am a gynaecologist and I look after real women. I am not qualified to look after MEN, even if they shave their beard and come to tell my secretary that they have become women. My GYNAECOLOGICAL examination table is not adapted for examining men. You have specialised and extremely competent services to look after men like you.

Whilst I understand the factual position that a gynaecologist works with female reproductive organs, to repeatedly refer to the client as a man, sir and so on is inflammatory and not particularly helpful to anyone.

I despair at the idea that it can be inflammatory for a doctor who specialises in sex-specific medicine to refer to someone as their biological sex.

Thank goodness I work with spreadsheets.

Peregrina · 30/01/2025 16:58

I can't see much wrong with that, except that biological might have been better substituted for real.

Should the Dr have played along with it and asked if the TWs periods were regular or would that just have given the TW a thrill?

It might have just been better to say 'Sorry, my appointment book is full', and quietly refer the TW to a male specialist? Assuming that there is a medical need which needs treating.

OldCrone · 30/01/2025 16:59

Should the Dr have played along with it and asked if the TWs periods were regular or would that just have given the TW a thrill?

I think we all know the answer to that.

TwistedWonder · 30/01/2025 17:04

InvisibleDragon · 30/01/2025 16:51

I'm going to go against the grain and say that his message, as shown in the image above, is unnecessarily rude and dismissive. It says:

SIR,
I am a gynaecologist and I look after real women. I am not qualified to look after MEN, even if they shave their beard and come to tell my secretary that they have become women. My GYNAECOLOGICAL examination table is not adapted for examining men. You have specialised and extremely competent services to look after men like you.

Whilst I understand the factual position that a gynaecologist works with female reproductive organs, to repeatedly refer to the client as a man, sir and so on is inflammatory and not particularly helpful to anyone.

I disagree. He retaliated to having someone who wasn’t his patient base wasting an appointment that someone else could have had and having ‘transphobe’ screamed at him across is office for refusing to play along with the delusion,

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catmothertes1 · 30/01/2025 17:07

TwistedWonder · 30/01/2025 16:03

https://reduxx.info/france-gynecologist-suspended-from-practice-after-lgbt-organization-files-transphobia-complaint/

Despite telling the TW it wasn’t his area of expertise and offering to refer him he’s deemed transphobic apparently.

FFS make this BS stop

I'm fluent in French and the tone of his message is extremely aggressive and doesn't just say that he is not qualified to treat the patient.

lcakethereforeIam · 30/01/2025 17:11

I thought this sounded familiar, this kicked off in 2023, I think there was a bit of news about it at the time and a thread.

It seems he's now been told he has to treat men or they'll be consequences. I doubt we've heard the last of this. He'll be targeted now. Unless he bows before the altar of gender and manages to avoid harming a patient he lacks competence to treat.

TempestTost · 30/01/2025 17:12

I do wonder if this letter was the first time this fellow had been told no.

It reads a bit differently if the receptionists or booking staff had already relayed this information - maybe more than once - and he insisted on hearing from the doctor.

vandel · 30/01/2025 17:13

catmothertes1 · 30/01/2025 17:07

I'm fluent in French and the tone of his message is extremely aggressive and doesn't just say that he is not qualified to treat the patient.

Everything he says is true though. I just get a tone that comes across as totally frustrated with this person "trying it on" because that is exactly what they did. Maybe if he had used the word biological instead of real, it would have fewer holes to pick in it. Overall it's fine to me.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 30/01/2025 17:14

catmothertes1 · 30/01/2025 17:07

I'm fluent in French and the tone of his message is extremely aggressive and doesn't just say that he is not qualified to treat the patient.

But he's not been suspended for 'being aggressive' he's been suspended for being 'transphobic '.

OldCrone · 30/01/2025 17:16

catmothertes1 · 30/01/2025 17:07

I'm fluent in French and the tone of his message is extremely aggressive and doesn't just say that he is not qualified to treat the patient.

I can't see what is aggressive about it. Is it the use of capitals?

It was also written in response to a poor online review. How much are other people expected to tiptoe around the sensibilities of these people when they leave poor reviews?

JustBitetheKnotsOff · 30/01/2025 17:19

It's direct, but isn't that just called being French rather than being transphobic?

TwistedWonder · 30/01/2025 17:20

catmothertes1 · 30/01/2025 17:07

I'm fluent in French and the tone of his message is extremely aggressive and doesn't just say that he is not qualified to treat the patient.

He told the patient face to face that he wasn’t the right person to treat him to which the response was the patient and their partner screaming transphobe across the office followed by a scathing review.
The responses from the doctor was in retaliation to the drama caused by the entitled patient and partner and I see it as exasperation rather than aggression.

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sicaria · 30/01/2025 17:22

On December 16, 2024, the Conseil National de l’Ordre des Médecins sentenced Acharian to a five-month suspension, followed by a one-month probationary period. During that time, if the gynecologist is found to have engaged in transphobia or denied another trans-identified male patient, he would be sanctioned again.

My bolding. So basically he's being forced to treat any other trans-identified male coming in. And a five month suspension?? For tellling the truth??