French Gynaecologist Suspended for refusing to treat a TW

[TwistedWonder]

https://reduxx.info/france-gynecologist-suspended-from-practice-after-lgbt-organization-files-transphobia-complaint/

Despite telling the TW it wasn’t his area of expertise and offering to refer him he’s deemed transphobic apparently.

FFS make this BS stop

Whilst I entirely agree that it is not appropriate for a gynaecologist to treat someone with male anatomy / no female reproductive system, as @catmothertes1 says, the tone of the written text is aggressive and rude.

Part of being in a caring profession is being able to tell people things they don't want to hear calmly and professionally. There's a big difference between saying that "My service can't meet your needs because I work with disorders of female reproductive anatomy" and gratuitously calling someone Sir and a man multiple times in 2 sentences.

So he’s supposed to accept having transphobia screamed at him and a scathing online review because he rightly refused the patient and just roll over quietly?

And he’s now been told he’s not allowed to turn any further TW away - how is that logical?

Sometimes the only way to fight fire is with more fire.

Surely thé responsible and tolerant course would be to devise a suitable treatment for the prospective patient.

See them charge them double

Also make sure you get out the speculum no pain relief and offer them a smear test

No. It would be to point them in the direction of an appropriate specialist, which is what he did, without being screamed at for transphobia

Apparently he initially said: "I told her that I’m not competent, but I can guide you. I can refer you to services that can take better care of you."

What's not calm, professional and also respectful ("she" pronoun) about that?

His professional medical opinion wasn't accepted by the patient. Who then went and slagged him off publicly!

I didn't say that and I don't think that he should have to see the patient. I think the patient was incredibly rude and aggressive.

But you can manage that as the professional without being rude and aggressive back - it doesn't get you anywhere.

He offered to refer the patient to a more appropriate service. And got called a transphobe to his face. The patient was then apparently rude to other staff.

It's not appropriate for the Dr to decide a treatment plan for a patient outwith his expertise.

Yep. And sadly there will probably be an influx of entitled men booking appointments now to prove a point at the expense of women who actually need the services of a gynaecologist

I highly doubt if he'd been rude to an actual woman it would have had this response.

Why did the patient want to see a gynaecologist for in the first place? It just seems attention seeking

Tell me in what Universe does a man need to see a gynaecologist? In his fantasy dreams maybe. Nothing remotely transphobic about that.

‘and gratuitously calling someone Sir and a man multiple times in 2 sentences.’

The Doctor did not call his client a man multiple times, he says that he is not qualified or equipped to treat ‘men’. He only calls him a man ‘comme vous’ once.

PS thé ‘suitable treatment’ was a bit 🤡

Having had some (minor) medical treatment in France, I'd say that being direct really isn't uncommon (and by direct, I do mean border-line rude to my English ears).

As a doctor, that's a factual response, admittedly not using the language the patient would like, but then I didn't really enjoy being called a morbidly obese geriatric mother - and yet I was, and they were perfectly reasonable to have those things on my medical notes.

Sounds honest and truthful to me. If men identifying as women take offence at the truth then thats nobody else’s problem. Offending someone isnt illegal.

Apparently he initially said: "I told her that I’m not competent, but I can guide you. I can refer you to services that can take better care of you."
What's not calm, professional and also respectful ("she" pronoun) about that?

Wouldn't that have been "Je lui ai dit" in which "lui" is the same for a man and for a woman? (If it is indeed that the original response was polite, and the one we see an exasperated response to a negative online review, I have sympathy, but I don't think we should use the pronouns in an English translation as evidence!)

Regardless of if you believe TWAW (I do not) why on earth would you want a doctor who has told you they are not qualified/competent in the treatment you need to treat you ??!!!!!

I keep seeing news reports that J Yaniv is starting these kinds of fights with gynaecologists, so it's become a thing. There are lots of wishful posts on X saying the doctor couldn't tell they were trans, we're so impressed with their neo vagina etc.

The most horrifying thing is the comments on these articles, especially from women, who think surgery makes things exactly the same, no awareness at all that there is any more to our anatomy than a hole.

I think the ultimate validation would be to "surprise," a gynaecologist, the excitement in advance must have led to such disappointment.

Oh, for fuck's sake.

We had a transwoman on here once, who was really looking forward to getting his smear test invitation in the post. Because it validated him. He was completely upfront about it.

Do those saying it's rude, not understand that there are some men who have autogynephilia, a sexual fetish, for whom this would be arousing?

i'm not saying this particular person is AGP. I have no idea.

What normal person would go out of their way to be intimately medically treated by someone who is not competent in their particular issue? And when that professional says they're not competent, start screaming at them?

Ask yourself, is this normal behaviour??

@InvisibleDragon

I agree, the response was over the top. He should have used the term transwomen rather than men, or biologically male rather than man perhaps, repeatedly saying man was unnecessary

But...he's a man? He's literally a man. He might want to pretend to be a woman, but no one else has to join in with his delusions.

In the patient wants to be treated like a women maybe he should have jammed a speculum up the penis hole!

The person did not go to the gynaecologist because he needed treatment, they went to cause an issue and blow things up. They seem to have succeeded but I hope that if France has a Gynae Association or similar that they fight back hard on this.

Should the Dr have played along with it and asked if the TWs periods were regular or would that just have given the TW a thrill?

That's exactly what they wanted. The attention, validation and excuse to kick off and act the victim when it was refused.