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Labours TikTok Ad - WTF!!!

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SkiingonKaraSea · 06/01/2025 00:07

Have you seen Labours new TikTok ad?

https://www.tiktok.com/@uklabour/video/7456091774868639008?lang=en

TikTok - Make Your Day

https://www.tiktok.com/@uklabour/video/7456091774868639008?lang=en

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Sasskitty · 07/01/2025 13:20

Chersfrozenface · 07/01/2025 13:15

I forgot to check the BBC.

Tumbleweed, even in the Politics section.

And normally there's an item on "today's papers". There's only an item on the Scottish papers, nothing on the London editions.

Nothing to see here, eh, Auntie?

Same if you go in self titled (though I’m sure attempting to be amusing using a quote from somewhere) Starmeristas thread on MN. I think they must like the Labour party’s boots clean each morning.

duc748 · 07/01/2025 13:20

I don't believe it, I think someone in the Labour party is trolling the British public.

To what purpose? For shits and giggles?

Chersfrozenface · 07/01/2025 13:25

duc748 · 07/01/2025 13:20

I don't believe it, I think someone in the Labour party is trolling the British public.

To what purpose? For shits and giggles?

Or "all publicity is good publicity / at least they're talking about us / see, you're all talking about them".

Nah, doesn't work. Having to delete material and apologise, looking stupid, disorganised and inept (and I'm being charitable) is not the way to impress the public and ensure votes.

larklane17 · 07/01/2025 13:26

It's a 50 hour wait at A and E in Liverpool Royal today. Critical incident declared. It's a total shit show.

We'll be needing a tad more than a hare in a nurses outfit and abusive lyrics to convince us that Labour's going to make a difference.

lcakethereforeIam · 07/01/2025 13:32

My initial, rather dark and unfair, thought on seeing the translation was 'well grooming gangs vote too', but I don't honestly believe it was put out to appeal to the child rapist portion of the electorate.

I don't think malice should be automatically assumed, rank incompetence is more likely. But what rank incompetence! It's up there with Ratner. Ugly, creepy AI. Vile lyrics. The timing. All of it. One for the ages.

SkiingonKaraSea · 07/01/2025 13:32

Chersfrozenface · 07/01/2025 13:25

Or "all publicity is good publicity / at least they're talking about us / see, you're all talking about them".

Nah, doesn't work. Having to delete material and apologise, looking stupid, disorganised and inept (and I'm being charitable) is not the way to impress the public and ensure votes.

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  1. because you think you might get away with it (stupid but happens)

  2. because it is what you actually want to say and you think you can get the message out even if you have to ‘apologise’.

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Chersfrozenface · 07/01/2025 13:43

because it is what you actually want to say and you think you can get the message out even if you have to ‘apologise’.

That's just another version of "see, you're all talking about them".

What happens, in fact, is that your message is tainted by the stupidity and cackhandedness.

At least a portion of the public is going to think "FFS, they're so inept, they even cock up an advert of less than a minute, how on earth can they fix the NHS, reduce fuel bills, run the railways, fix the schools?"

ArabellaScott · 07/01/2025 13:43

Well, the Labout Subreddit thinks the track is 'banging'.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LabourUK/comments/1hvodyg/labour_apologises_for_tiktok_video_with/

SkiingonKaraSea · 07/01/2025 13:46

Chersfrozenface · 07/01/2025 13:43

because it is what you actually want to say and you think you can get the message out even if you have to ‘apologise’.

That's just another version of "see, you're all talking about them".

What happens, in fact, is that your message is tainted by the stupidity and cackhandedness.

At least a portion of the public is going to think "FFS, they're so inept, they even cock up an advert of less than a minute, how on earth can they fix the NHS, reduce fuel bills, run the railways, fix the schools?"

But do you care about what those people think? they are probably far right anyway

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SkiingonKaraSea · 07/01/2025 13:50

Igneococcus · 07/01/2025 13:49

Just adding the Times coverage:
"Labour apologises for TikTok featuring obscene lyrics about women"

https://www.thetimes.com/article/5edf18d2-c267-424f-af5a-4238b9a62480?shareToken=b35468799e026a2227ca222abd7da9fa

Not women, ‘young girls’

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Chersfrozenface · 07/01/2025 13:53

SkiingonKaraSea · 07/01/2025 13:46

But do you care about what those people think? they are probably far right anyway

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That is exactly the thinking that lost the Democrats the US Presidential election and lost them their majority in the Senate.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 07/01/2025 13:57

"Children ready to learn, with funded breakfast clubs"

The first thing that came into my mind on seeing that sentence and the owl was an image of children being fed dead mice.

SkiingonKaraSea · 07/01/2025 14:03

Chersfrozenface · 07/01/2025 13:53

That is exactly the thinking that lost the Democrats the US Presidential election and lost them their majority in the Senate.

Quite

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WarriorN · 07/01/2025 16:12

I would prefer a well funded breakfast club than the crap currently being sponsored by Greggs at some schools.

Though not all children need two breakfasts.

SkiingonKaraSea · 07/01/2025 16:43

Didn’t the proposed breakfast club turn out to be just 30 minutes with schools contributing 25% of the cost? Finding sufficient staff for just 30 minutes for the whole school is likely to be a challenge too.

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Datun · 07/01/2025 16:46

SkiingonKaraSea · 07/01/2025 13:50

Not women, ‘young girls’

The song by DJ Holanda, a Brazilian musician from Sao Paulo, is called Montagem Coral and describes the pleasures of smoking marijuana and having sex with a “bitch”. The lyrics urge a “naughty young girl” to “sit” on the singer’s “pot-crazy dick” and ends with repetition of the line: “Just a punch in the young girl’s pussy.”

At least they're quoting it properly.

And when you apologise for putting shit like this out, for the love of God, don't try and minimise it by saying it's 'inappropriate'.

On the plus side, these sorts of images are known, apparently, as AI Slop. So me thinking it's a load of old rubbish, actually makes me very cutting edge 😇

Dbank · 07/01/2025 17:22

The whole incident typifies this government, we need solutions to fix the economy, NHS, immigration, boats, housing, grooming, and national debt and they think this AI meme cluster phuk will convince us they know what they are doing?

BonfireLady · 07/01/2025 17:49

Chersfrozenface · 07/01/2025 13:15

I forgot to check the BBC.

Tumbleweed, even in the Politics section.

And normally there's an item on "today's papers". There's only an item on the Scottish papers, nothing on the London editions.

Nothing to see here, eh, Auntie?

I'm really hoping that the Have I Got News for You team has one of its brave moments.... This seems to be one of the routes that the BBC does accept when it comes to gently challenging the Be Kind At All Costs approach it seems to prefer on "toxic" subjects. Obviously it's a Hat Trick production, but aired by the BBC.

It is an absolute gift for a host to add a sarcastic dig at "the establishment". The script is practically writing itself...

"In the week that Labour said that it didn't need to hold a national enquiry into the Oldham 'grooming gangs', they managed to stick it to Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk by showing that it wasn't just Muslims targeting young girls after all. The Labour Party spoke to British youth communities directly on TikTok, suggesting 'just a punch in a young girl's pussy' was fine.... Before deciding on balance that it was probably 'inappropriate' when considering the wider context".

Obviously it's poor taste joking about a rape crisis but they like to be edgy so I wouldn't put it past them to draw out a comedy angle by linking it all. It being positioned as "grooming" rather than rape/torture might just be enough to get them talking about it.

Whatever people think of Ian Hislop et al, it's a programme that reaches the BBC-watching, liberal-leaning public. The braver they get at speaking up on difficult issues, the more the message gets out there that this kind of stuff isn't just a right wing conspiracy theory after all. To be fair to Ian Hislop, as crap as he's been on gender identity (including that awful email to Graham Linehan) he does sometimes say things that others won't, so he might also even speak up about the rape crisis itself as a general comment about UK governments making a hash of handling safeguarding of young girls. He doesn't shy away from taking a pop at the Tories or Labour.

Or of course the BBC will continue to ignore the TikTok blunder entirely.

MimiGC · 08/01/2025 13:56

That TikTok video with its appalling graphics and lyrics is the final straw for me. I have cancelled my Labour Party today and told them why.

larklane17 · 08/01/2025 14:26

It's one of the worst things I've ever seen a party put out MiMiGC.

I watched Newsnight last night because Jess Phillips was on being interviewed. I wondered if this Tik Tok would be mentioned. It wasn't. No surprise there I suppose.

Much about Elon Musk, plus the effect his comments had on her. She looked very stressed indeed. Victoria Derbyshire asked her if it was all worth it. Jess Phillips said that if there had been no change in the next two years re VAWG then, no, it would not have been worth it.

Her own side making Tik Toks like that isn't going to help convince anyone of Labour's good intentions, particularly victims and survivors.

duc748 · 08/01/2025 15:05

If JP was on Newsnight, she certainly should have been asked abut the TikTok. However awkward that might have been for her,

DeanElderberry · 08/01/2025 15:15

Slight edit to make it clear what the words mean:

The song by DJ Holanda, a Brazilian musician from Sao Paulo, is called Montagem Coral and describes the pleasure . . . the male singer derives from . . . smoking marijuana and having sex with a “bitch”. The lyrics urge a “naughty young girl” to “sit” on the singer’s “pot-crazy dick” and ends with repetition of the line: “Just a punch in the young girl’s pussy.”

The lyrics do not claim that the 'young girl' has agency or that her pleasure (or informed consent) is matter of concern. Women are not really human, so they don't matter.

quixote9 · 08/01/2025 16:08

Labour is a major party. They have people in their media department vetting everything, right? Surely? Or do they just post anything some gumball grabs off the grosser corners of the web? Because if somebody, ostensibly normal, looked at this and thought it was fine that says more about how badly porn has corrupted our entire society than anything else I've seen.

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