Trans remembrance flags and SNP renews support for LGBTYS

[WandsOut]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14226129/Trans-remembrance-flags-flown-public-buildings.html

What is going on here.
Why are they so determined to support LGBTYS and trans young people - who is driving this?

That's included under the trans umbrella, isn't it?

https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/ieIssueDetails.aspx

'recurring costs of £61,040' - is that per annum?!

What a strange list.

The issue that discussion point was on, was the recording of trans murders in the UK. Of course these are not recorded accurately as the ONS pointed out, as police forces have been recording by binary sex and not by trans identity.

'Total annual costs of £61,040 are comprised as follows:
(i) annual cost of membership is £2,500;
(ii) annual costs of activities to support participation in the Stonewall UK
Workplace Equality Index and implement effective resulting action plan are
estimated to be equivalent to 1 FTE at Grade 8, i.e. £57,540 (salary and
oncosts); and
(iii) attendance at Stonewall training and conference to support our work in
creating an inclusive culture for all and enabling LGBTQ+ employees to
thrive in our workplace is estimated at £1,000 (including travel)'

One whole person is paid nearly £60k to promote this pish.

'Joining the Stonewall Diversity Champion programme in year 3 of
a 4-year strategy is likely to raise questions from other networks regarding
prioritisation of resources'

No shit!

No detail is given about the surveyed population apart from the fact that it involves a US population not a UK one and for ‘unemployed’ includes:

"defined as adults 18 and over who are homemakers, refused work, students, or unable to work”

Which makes it rather important to know whether their sampling technique disproportionately recruited from certain demographics eg by relying on onl8ne surveying via transactivists groups.

However now let’s look at the marginalisation of disabled people in the UK
Employed non-disabled adults 82%
Employed disabled adults 54%

Of if we want to go international, I wonder what the current employment rate for women in Afghanistan is? Unfortunately we can’t ask them.

Hardly a major issue, though any death is a death too many, of course.

The issue that discussion point was on, was the recording of trans murders in the UK. Of course these are not recorded accurately as the ONS pointed out, as police forces have been recording by binary sex and not by trans identity.

Trans Day of Remembrance records come from media and people nominating them, not the police. They are likely to be more complete, not less.

That was 2018. And even then possibly not by sex but by ‘self-identified gender’ at the behest of transactivists. Are you saying the coroner would ignore trans identity when investigating their death? And yet we know that of the nine cases the article refers to at least two were murdered by trans partners, one was actually suicide, and motivations included drug debts and an unhappy client of a prostitute.

Omg why does everything have to turn into ‘disabled people are MORE marginalised therefore trans people can’t be marginalised’. What kind of argument even is that?!

Again for the people at the back, it’s not a bloody competition.

This would be more compelling if trans activists hadn't literally tried to stop the UK's only LGB charity from being allowed to exist.

It doesn't need to be a competition for people to object to the anti-women's rights agenda pushing and emotional blackmail and hyperbole of it all.

‘OMG why do you keep showing trans activists are not marginalised even though I keep insisting they are’

This would be more compelling if trans activists hadn't literally tried to stop the UK's only LGB charity from being allowed to exist.

Quite. It's been a non stop mass tantrum ever since it launched.

So when a trans person is a victim they are recorded according to their biological sex, but when they commit a crime, they are recorded according to their gender identity?

But you didn’t show trans people weren’t marginalised. I’m going to assume you meant that rather than ‘trans activists’.

When a trans identified man commits a crime the BBC report that a woman did it.

Yes, presumably if Malcolm Clark has missed out loads of genuine trans Holocaust victims, there will be a rebuttal somewhere naming them.

Wasn't he just analysing a Pink News piece which could only come up with five people, most of whom survived the Holocaust?

I don't really know why it's so difficult for you to grasp the manifold reasons why trans identity might not be accurately recorded. Here's a few:

1. Why would a coroner necessarily know the trans identity of a murdered person?

1. If a police force has a table recording numbers of murders and they only have 2 columns, M, & F...where would a trans person sit in this table?

1. Next of kin is very influential in the process; if they do not recognise trans status of their family member they are hardly going to advocate for records to reflect this. Think of many FWR posters...if they had a child who identified as trans and were in the unimaginable situation of losing their child do you really think they would be pushing for a coroner to record this and report this upwards for collation in further statistics? Of course they wouldn't, plenty FWR posters say there is no such thing as a trans person.

You presented pie charts as if they were evidence that trans people were when they showed no such thing.

But yes, trans people. Transactivists are very clearly not marginalised in any way.

On what basis are they marginalised though?

Certainly not if you're using either the homicide rate per capita or political power as your criteria.

You can't just invent people to suit your argument @suggestionsplease1

Who have I invented?