This is why so many women voted Trump

[BabyLlamaZen]

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m not saying it’s worth the horrors of the Trump administration (and what other women’s rights will be abolished). However, I can also empathise. Books like this are everywhere in baby sections of bookshops in USA. My american friend is naturally more conservative than myself although hated Trump and didn’t vote for him previously (she abstained and then she went Biden although she says she seriously regrets) and this time she voted Trump. She said this stuff is now everywhere and it’s constant. She also showed me a baby’s ABC book which included B for bisexual (and literally then described it as people who are sexually attracted to either gender). For babies.

But the ad, with its vivid tagline - "Kamala is for they/them. President Trump is for you" - broke through in Mr. Trump's testing to an extent that stunned some of his aides.

Quite. Never mind woke, you'd have to be in a coma not to see how this is affecting the general public

Power hungry manipulative men treating women like objects and wanting to keep them in the kitchen is fairly familiar.

It's not what you'd call unusual.

Allowing cross dressing fetishists to promote rapists in women's prisons, decimate women's sport, advocate for an ideology as batshit as flat earthism and capture a generation of children, who think maybe they need to cut off their genitals, is fairly unusual.

I don't know why people think this isn't an issue for the population.

Watching grown men fondle their fake breasts on the White House lawn really isn't a vote winner.

Bloody hell, who would have thought, in a million years it would be THIS hard to field a candidate to beat Donald Trump.

But apparently it is.

What Datun said.

How does it help that he's funny when you're dying because doctors won't perform an essential medical procedure on you for fear of being accused of aiding abortion?

Putting abortion front and centre was a big mistake.
Not all women are in favour of abortion for a start, and for many it is a theoretical issue rather than one that impacts them in their daily life, if at all in their whole life. And in some ways, even if you are pro choice it was a big turn off...because it subliminally suggets a rejection of the sorts of lives most women lead.

And to add to this, consider a woman in college in Pennsylvania. Abortion is legal, whether you agree with it or not. So if you’re staunchly against abortion in Penn., you’re going to vote for Trump. And if you’re staunchly for abortion, you consider that it’s legal in your state, unlikely to change, hopefully won’t affect you.

Then you consider what you saw with Lia Thomas on the local news at the University of Pennsylvania and see that Harris and Walz support his inclusion in women’s college sport and changing rooms. I imagine that becomes a primary motivator to vote Trump.

Yes, some pro choice people still didn't feel sufficently motivated by that issue alone to vote against all of the other issues that most concerned them.

All of the media images of young, female Democrat voters in tears and feeling devastated by the result was quite illustrative of a generation of young women who have been brought up with abortion access and female representation as their main drivers.

That so many young women are no longer having children, or saying they don't want children for whatever reason is definitely a generational issue, but also an issue of social background and culture. Working class women, and women of minority ethnicities are still having children......and i imagine to some it all feels a bit culturally alien to them. They see Kamala Harris...a woman of almost 60 years of age, no children, high flying West coast career amongst the elite movers and shakers.....and they don't, at heart, feel like they relate to that.

I am aware that poorer, less educated women also require abortions - but often it is not being pursued as some kind of 'liberated' lifestyle choice, if you know what I mean?

Also, women know that some men can be creeps and sexual pests, and that high flying men often have access to women courtesy of their power and status ( and that they abuse it).....but the idea of a man with big plastic tits and his knob out in your changing area is a step too far.

Then you consider what you saw with Lia Thomas on the local news at the University of Pennsylvania and see that Harris and Walz support his inclusion in women’s college sport and changing rooms.

And, it's not just because this is a women's rights issue, how discriminatory it is, how unfair and how it will ruin women's sport.

It's because it's fucking CRAAAZY.

If people want some evidence that it influenced voters, here’s a screen shot of the reader’s picks comments on an article in the New York Times with thousands of recommends.

https://archive.md/rlR8s

Nor too can it be ignored the reaction of young women when Biden celebrated a male person who had been a ‘girl’ for all of what? a couple of hundred days?

But apparently there seems to be a % of the population who misses all these reactions to individual event s and dismisses them as non-consequential. How many women resented the fuck that Levine was celebrated as being a ‘female’ first officer of that rank?

Of course, they are not inconsequential. It really has built up and because speaking about it leads to vilification, the strong feelings on the topic remains hidden. And to some people, what is hidden can be rejected as being unimportant. Plus ca change

Exactly. I simply don't trust people who push this agenda. And I imagine even without being conscious of it, that applies to others too.

Perfectly put 🙌🏻

Exactly. In 2008 there was a piss take of Sarah Palin as VP candidate with the whole “I can see Russia from my house!”

Now, the ordinary voter sees people like Harris claim Lia Thomas is a woman and think the same.

I don't know any woman who 'pursues' abortion or who has had an abortion as a 'lifestyle choice'. What truly horrible attitudes.

I do know women who would never have an abortion themselves but don't regard that as a reason to prevent other women having access to safe abortion, and who can understand that just as you can't really separate out bits of the female body into Lego bricks like gender ideology tries to, you can't separate being able to make decisions about fertility from other aspects of women's health care, and economic stability. In most countries, certainly in the US, a majority of women having abortions are either mothers or at the very least have been pregnant already. They have to make decisions about how they are going to feed and care for the children they already have, in their own real circumstances. I guess you could call that a 'lifestyle choice' but I would consider that not just anti-feminist but anti-woman, anti-human.

It’s a massive issue if you have an autistic child. Or a gay adolescent. Or quirky/ vulnerable/ feisty.

I don’t know how I’d have voted or whether I’d home educate if I lived in the states.

I do know women who would never have an abortion themselves but don't regard that as a reason to prevent other women having access to safe abortion

Yes, there are lots of those women. But there are also plenty of women who believe it's morally wrong, and the lesser evil is to withhold access to abortion, to a greater or lesser degree. Most, but not all, religious.

Exactly. Just like the book in the OP.

You've got posters on here actually arguing about it. Like it's a debate. It's not mainstream, so why does it matter, it's not a government publication, and anyway children have to understand trans people exist, etc.

Everyone else thinks it's fucking batshit.

I once had an argument with a woman on Twitter about the ability of men to become pregnant.

She said they could, and I said they couldn't.

She was a gynaecologist.

I blocked her.

100%

Also - left has an ideology that must be adhered to. Must fervently believe in women rights to chose abortion, must also support trans kids transition, Palestine, immigration, hate boomers, hate bankers, lawyers (unless animal rights, anti oil lawyer etc), let everyone into America so they can be happy. No room for nuance.

Left can’t understand why a woman vote Trump? Trump is nuance, he can support women & also objectify, he can push abortion decisions to states so it not his decision. They can support LGBTQ but not want trans in sports, IMO …

if you can’t fit into the very strict “Lefty Box” and strongly support every left ideology… then you really struggle to join vote Harris. If you are a Dem and your city over run with immigrants which is impacting schools, jobs, housing …. Are you going to sign up for 4 more years?

Presumabmy she was talking about women who identify as men? Please say she was

Yes this.

Trump and trans are two sides of the same gender stereotype loving coin.

https://deadwildroses.com/2019/10/07/handy-venn-diagrams-the-radical-feminist-position-on-gender/

A non-exhaustive list of batshit crazy stuff Americans have been exposed to over the last few years:

• Lia Thomas and people saying he’s a woman with a straight face
• Luggage Thief wearing stolen clothes
• a paediatrician on Matt Walsh’s “What is a Woman” say “Do chickens cry?”
• seeing thousands of children medically transitioned
• a man touted as the first woman to achieve a lofty position in the Biden administration meddling to remove the lower age limits on gender surgeries for children
• a man exposing his breasts on the White House lawn
• an article in the NYT last week about a gender clinician who refuses to publish data on puberty blockers out of fear it will show they don’t help and be used as proof to stop them being used
• a woman spiked in the face by a volleyball hit by a man, leaving her with a traumatic brain injury
• left wing media gaslight the world by claiming at the Olympics that Imane Khelif is a “biological woman” despite millions of Americans having working eyes

After each of these things you could say “that’s crazy!” because they all are. They’ve all happened.

The final crazy thing is the gaslighting from the Left that all the crazy is on the Trump side and nothing on theirs. The condescension is offensive to many.

I saw a Trump advert on X where he’s speaking to camera about how he’s going to end the transgender insanity. It was amazing! I actually wondered if it was real.

So I Googled Trump transgender advert imagining that would bring it up for me.

What I got instead was dozens of screeching hysterical progressive news articles about how horrific Trump’s anti-transgender adverts are. But not the actual advert. And zero results from centrist or conservative sources.

Google obviously sees their role not to return search results but to censor and correct wrong think.

I use Google as little as possible and I’m glad that AI charbots are superseding it.

I think a lot of people don't understand the immediacy of the fear for these children. Childhood is short. One presidential term takes you from eg 11 to 16 which are a world of difference where parental influence is matched by peers and school and culture. Whilst I'd never vote Trump, I can understand the rationale that I was on birth control to protect me, so how do I protect my kid?

I always think the parents who are dismissive must have one of those solid pink or blue kids. A die hard fairy princess or a fanatical footballer. Because STILL there's so little else in kid culture. If you're a parent to a kid who doesn't fit those molds, and especially if they're also autistic/ gay then it is scary! Children believe what they're told by adults in school. Children take on board the messages from peers earnestly asking if they're now the opposite sex because of the presentation they had at school last week.

And the message that kids should change their bodies to match their personalities is drip drip drip insidious like that thick arse book in the OP most likely written by some dude whose harddrive needs checking.

The final crazy thing is the gaslighting from the Left that all the crazy is on the Trump side and nothing on theirs. The condescension is offensive to many.

This.

I saw a Trump advert on X where he’s speaking to camera about how he’s going to end the transgender insanity. It was amazing! I actually wondered if it was real.

People claim it's AI, but the text of it is on his website.