This is why so many women voted Trump

[BabyLlamaZen]

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m not saying it’s worth the horrors of the Trump administration (and what other women’s rights will be abolished). However, I can also empathise. Books like this are everywhere in baby sections of bookshops in USA. My american friend is naturally more conservative than myself although hated Trump and didn’t vote for him previously (she abstained and then she went Biden although she says she seriously regrets) and this time she voted Trump. She said this stuff is now everywhere and it’s constant. She also showed me a baby’s ABC book which included B for bisexual (and literally then described it as people who are sexually attracted to either gender). For babies.

1% of people in the USA are trans. If you voted for trump
for this reason you’re a moron. I normally like to make a more intelligent argument but in this case it really is that bloody simple

Despite every respected economist in the US stating Kamala’s policies were better for the economy. Make it make sense

@Lostmyusernametoday it wasn't a sophisticated choice imo. Inflation was genuinely high in 2022 post Covid, there was a cost of living squeeze, and people decided to chuck out the incumbent government. Same in the UK. Ockham's razor.

TBF the question is why should 100% of the population vote for 1% of the population to be allowed to self-ID in to the sports categories and spaces of the opposite sex?

Perhaps the "morons" just didn't want to be coerced in to accepting men identifying in to women's sports?

(And no, I'm not a Trump fan)

This is everywhere too, and constant. Amongst other stuff. And now you can be a self confessed sexual abuser and become president of the USA! What a time to be alive.

Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Bush: Whatever you want.
Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.

Funny in what way? If you mean ridiculous, farcical, or like a clown with borderline dementia, then yeah, I suppose. Other than that he's fucking terrifying, a full on malignant narcissist, interested only in himself and the money and glory that power brings to him personally. He's not interested in the welfare of Americans below the level of billionaire.

He’s terrifying

its a non issue - there are so many more important issues. Primarily that he’s open about his views on women and he’s a criminal!!!!!

I would be surprised to discover that women voted for Trump because of this single issue. If they were so engaged with women’s rights they would have also been thinking about the women who have died and will die because they could not get surgical treatment for a miscarriage, or an abortion, or even just because of the way he views women.

That seems highly unlikely given the list of priorities given by voters.

But that’s not the number that matters:

Thousands of children across the US have been subjected to gender medical treatments and left sterile, infertile and damaged for life. It doesn’t matter if that’s only a small percentage, people don’t want it to happen, and people don’t want it happen to someone they know.

Thousands of women and girls have been disadvantaged as a result of men in women’s sport. It doesn’t matter if that’s only a small percentage, people don’t want it to happen, and people don’t want it happen to someone they know.

Regardless of what else might happen, wanting these two things to stop does not make anyone a moron. You could equally argue that a vote for someone who wants to continue both these things and strengthen the protections allowing them to happen is equally moronic.

Completely agree. Another Trump term is only going to entrench the culture wars. It will not see the end of this ideology as the US appears to be locked into the ludicrous position that on Team A you have this basket of beliefs, and on Team B an opposing set of beliefs.

The - I believe fully justified - horror and concern at the Trump presidency among the left will only strengthen their resolve. And they will continue to be influential in many spheres.

The real problems are lack of moderation and a political centre ground, as well as an inability to challenge preconceptions. I feel this was a big topic several years ago, but we seem to have accepted a deeply divisive status quo now.

I agree that Biden is too old to be president, but Trump is only a couple years younger and he's very obviously not in good condition, physically or mentally, in spite of his minions attempting to portray him as a superhero with a fit body he didn't have even in his youth. Neither one of these men were appropriate candidates.

I thought it was the economy.🤦‍♀️

"I really don't think many, a tiny insignificant number, are going to cast their votes based primarily on what the candidate thinks about trans people."
LOL! So big-headed!
Women have not been voting on 'trans people'!
Women have been voting for their families, against their kids being taught a dangerous ideology in school, on parental rights, on lying to kids, 'the woke crap', against 100 genders, against menacing pronouns, against authoritarianism, being called bigots and transphobes, against sexualisation and mutilation of their kids.
Their families and children are more important to them than the supposed loss of 'abortion rights' that's been held over them for so long.
A Mother's love and strength is so much more powerful than they ever get credit for.

Trump is NOT funny! He is a misogynistic, cheating husband . He is also a convicted felon ! The sad thing is he has promised a lot to a bunch of naive religious zealots who think he will change things. He didn’t accomplish much last time not the wall that Mexico was going to pay for and build and not even factories from closing. They will in for a big surprise when he doesn’t deport the 20 million immigrants he claims he will and as far as gas prices go I read today that won’t be as easy as he thinks.
Regards the book, if you don’t like it don’t buy it !
NYer her so when it comes to Trump we all know what a fraud he is and therefor NYers never vote for him.

Could you please site an actual medical journal where this is the case ?
No, I don’t think so because you are getting your facts out of thin air.
what you write is faceless none sense .

Not abortion rights. Women's bodily autonomy.

Women, mothers and potential mothers are dying in the US because some states rate a foetal heartbeat more important than a woman's life.

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/11/03/health/texas-fetal-demise-propublica

I think many people are pretty suspicious now about what economists tell them is best for the economy.

Economists have been running the world for years.

A lot of the Harris campaign and Democratic Party are saying Neo-liberalism has gotten the party to here but they seem to want to dig the hole deeper rather than become more Progressive.

That is very sobering.

In a way, the very undemocratic antics of the Democratic Party bear a lot of responsibility for this mess.

An older Jewish woman who lives in Florida wrote on my friend's FB page that she was a single issue voter. She voted for Trump because Kamala expressed empathy for the student protestors supporting Palestine & that was increasing antisemitism. Other commenters pointed out that Trump has strong ties to the Proud Boys, whose motto is 6MWE (6 million weren't enough), and has ties to Nick Fuentes. He's also actively undermined the US diplomatic attempts so that Biden wouldn't have success before the election. She doubled down about her decision. Kamala may not be perfect but she sure as hell isn't going to push the button in a fit of narcissistic pique. Trump's former military advisors said they had to talk him away from nukes on multiple occasions - this time they won't be around.

If any of you you truly believe that Trump and his moron followers have the best interests of children and women’s rights at heart then you really are the most idiotic bunch of batshit crazies to ever grace the internet!
And the world is fucked; watch on those women’s rights you all care so much about continue to get eroded away and women die from the lack of basic health care, children are taught to treat their fellow human beings with contempt for being a different sex, religion, race, foreign, class.
And then watch it spread even more over here in the UK. But as long as we stop the men wearing a dress eh! Ffs, delusional, the lot of you.

From 2022, so likely thousands more in the following years to date:

A total of 17,683 patients, ages 6 through 17, with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis initiated either puberty blockers or hormones or both during the five-year period. Of these, 4,780 patients had initiated puberty blockers and 14,726 patients had initiated hormone treatment.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/

Confirmation that children are getting surgery:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2820437

Thousands of children across the US in total.

Sport:

https://www.shewon.org

This is a non-exhaustive list of women who should have won but lost to a male. Of course, this only factors in the winners, and doesn’t factor in those who were displaced from the podium, or a final, or just had their final position displaced. It doesn’t factor in how many women might have had to share changing rooms with these males. It also doesn’t factor in the more mediocre males who might not have won a competition but still disadvantaged women for the same reasons. This is, as I said, thousands of women.

Books like this are buoyed up by cultural fervour.

I am not so sure there is cultural fervour and people clamoring for those books. The amount of people who want that for their toddlers and babies, versus the amount who don't, has to be tiny % wise.

Sensitivity readers in publishing and the "inclusion" departments in TV really drive this "everything is a spectrum." Most ordinary people don't say anything because they are decent and don't want to hurt anyone.

Schools tie themselves up in the most ridiculous knots, trying on the one hand to teach biology and evidence based science, but on the other saying males can be females, or females males, all based on feeling. Most families are exposed to the whole dynamic because of the their school going children which is making it a family issue in the states rather than a man/woman thing. This is good.

I hate that Trump won and think that he is incredibly dangerous.

But the truth is we don't know how many people would have the issue in question influence their vote, because the push back against any conversation around it is so aggressive. Very few people discuss it in real life but most have strong opinions in private. In my experience anyway.

This.
with bells on