Moira Deeming in Australia - thread 3

[TheSandgroper]

Following on from busy threads 1 and 2

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5167282-in-australia-moira-deeming-defamation-trial-now-on

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5172553-moira-deeming-defamation-trial-thread-2-from-australia

Keep on discussing, ladies. Change never happens in silence.

Reposting the "champagne video" (how dare they!) KJK, Angie Jones, Katherine Deves and Moira made after the Melbourne event, where they discuss the actions of the TRAs, the neo Nazis and the police. It's clear that they are quite baffled by what happened with the NNs.

https://www.youtube.com/live/M4lZ5u8uws4?si=XO0KeiKcqU_GFcuV

Can I ask - has there been transcripts of the most recent witnesses posted on the last thread? The derailing got out of hand to the point i couldn't scroll back to find anything that looked like a post with witness transcripts.

Just reposting what was said in the court at the most recent session:

Pintos-Lopez [the guy that collated the dossier]: Yes I had no evidence that she was a nazi sympathiser.

Just wondering if Mumsnet need to actually delete all the posts on here that suggest that there is evidence of this made by users of this platform. Just to make sure they aren't in the same position?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womensrights/5172553-moira-deeming-defamation-trial-thread-2-from-australia?reply=138772547&utmcampaign=reply&utmmedium=share

Helle posted one at 12.15 today, near end of thread, hopefully link will take you to right post!

Is that necessary?

If anyone has posted anything saying Deeming/KJK is a nazi sympathiser I'm sure you can report it. I haven't seen anything like that.

It may be a bit like when lurkers say things are transphobic and people are reading things into posts that aren't there.

Although I guess deleting posts with the various videos/documents/twitter links that show associations between KJK and the far right could be convenient for some

https://x.com/ThePosieParker/status/1842148230727168145

Does anyone know how long it's likely to take for a verdict to be announced once the case has concluded

Quite

I would imagine that there are a lot of 'accidental' feminists.

Perhaps an unintended consequence of trans activism.

Yeah I saw that and snorted at her description of 1) living in a lefty cake baking bubble - she was kicked off here 5 years ago for the second time and spoken to by police for tweeting about Jackie Green in 2017..she's been active on this for a long time and 2) describing herself in the comments as "slightly more to the right" while being invited to speak at CPAC and endorsing Trump.

She's hilarious. Also a bit weird to blame her woes in Aus on "socfems" and the "managerial class". I don't think "socfems" have that much power. But always good to blame women

KJK is very adamant she is not a feminist.

I suppose that could bring us to look at the definition of ‘feminism’.

Supporter of women's rights then if you prefer.

Men trying to steal women's rights tends to turn women who were never activists towards activism.

But she doesn't blame women in that tweet at all. That's your interpretation not what she says.

The final paragraph makes it clear what is to blame. Men overreaching and the harm of children.

If you want to. I wouldn't want to be accused of "derailing" though

You're right Cassie. It was a cheap shot. I apologise and will ask for the post to be deleted.

Thanks for the apology. It doesn't need deleting, just was unnecessary

Never Cassie, never!

Thanks for the new thread @TheSandgroper

Just watched the video of KJK plus chums discussing the LWS event. It is quite clear how deranged the TRA are and that they had no idea who NN were or why they were there (and that the TRAs strangely didn’t seem to have an issue with them). How had this video been presented? I presume it was clipped but how?

February or March. I read that somewhere today. These cases are usually at least 3 months for verdict. Guess this factors in some summer/Christmas holidays that the judge might have booked.

Thanks for the new thread

@LongtailedTitmouse It was shown in its entirety on either Wednesday or Thursday afternoon. Pesutto’s reference to it in the dossier was an edited version posted in a tweet by PaulinePantsdown. (That’s a drag queen parody of the politician Pauline Hanson.)