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"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."

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crimplepop · 11/09/2024 16:36

KJK going off on one again. Can you see it yet?

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XChrome · 11/09/2024 22:31

LongtailedTitmouse · 11/09/2024 22:17

In what universe is breaking into to commit mayhem (and probably murder, they had threatened it) upon legislators going about their work a "protest?"

Not a protest?

www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/hundreds-palestinian-protesters-arrested-capitol-hill-ahead-netanyahu-rcna163368

Am I missing something? Where does it say they broke in, carrying weapons, with the intention of mayhem and murder? Where does it say they were violent at all?
It does in fact say they did not resist arrest.

"No one appeared to resist arrest. Capitol Police lightly tapped protesters on the shoulder to stand up, arrested them with white zip ties and escorted them out of the building slowly."

The Jan 6 rioters, OTOH, killed a police officer and attacked others. Fifteen officers were injured.
Not remotely comparable.

EdgeOfSixty · 11/09/2024 22:32

Daleksatemyshed · 11/09/2024 17:19

Regardless of anything else I don't understand how anyone can vote for Trump. A man who tries to win a debate by saying immigrants eat people's pets and the Democrats will allow abortions up to 9 months, who incited revolution and rioting at the White House and yet still people want to vote for him , madness

According to Trump they allow abortions after birth too.

LongtailedTitmouse · 11/09/2024 22:37

EdgeOfSixty · 11/09/2024 22:32

According to Trump they allow abortions after birth too.

They are called ‘partial birth abortions’

LongtailedTitmouse · 11/09/2024 22:39

RaspberryParade · 11/09/2024 22:27

@LongtailedTitmouse Not sure of your point. I disagree with their tactics
but in this instance none of them resisted arrest according to the article.
Whats it got to do with the insurrection?

So committing mayhem upon legislators going about their work can be a protest?

llamalines · 11/09/2024 22:44

RaspberryParade · 11/09/2024 20:15

How dare she attack Bev Jackson for poor judgement!
What hypocrisy and projection.
While I deeply appreciate the hard work and risks taken by SFW and
all the women who speak out, KJK is now just a liability
who gives ammunition to every one against us, from Tras to rightwing misogynists.
She has no shame anymore about being divisive or undermining or causing controversy to boost her ego.

This - although she's been at it for years.

She's never had any shame about being divisive or undermining or causing controversy to boost her ego. It's what she's all about and what many of us have been trying to say for years.

Most of us started off thinking she was great. Heck, I risked arrest climbing around in the middle of the night putting her bloody tshirts on statues, and I've even lost friends through standing up for her.

Many of us who have been ringing the alarm about KJK for a while know her in real life, not just online, and realised for ourselves because of her behaviour, that she's in this for herself, not for women, despite what she says. It was a huge disappointment, I really did want her to be the real deal. What a shame.

KJK thrives on contraversy. She's not about actual change. She's a poison in our movement. (And yes, it is a movement, before people start). Her words put a target on all our backs and she does not give a fuck. Not about me, or you.

However, she certainly is gifted at creating a narrative, and pulling people along with her. She's not on these boards anymore, but goodness her presence is, with her followers faithfully repeating her narratives.

I wish Magdalen Berns was still around. For a million reasons, but in this moment because there is no way she would stand for this shit. She and KJK were friends, sure. But Magdalen had a solid political foundations. No way would she stand by silent while KJK promoted the fucking grab-em-by-the-pussy, anti-women's rights felon and would-be dictator Trump. She'd have something to say about it, I'd bet my house on it.

Autumnismyfavouritetimeofyear · 11/09/2024 23:01

LongtailedTitmouse · 11/09/2024 22:37

They are called ‘partial birth abortions’

The term 'partial birth abortion' is a right wing term. That is not the technical term for them. The term was deliberately coined to further a particular agenda.

Linked below is an article explaining' what this actually is. The following bit jumped out at me -

'And contrary to the claims of some abortion opponents, most such abortions do not take place in the third trimester of pregnancy, or after fetal "viability." Indeed, when some members of Congress tried to amend the bill to ban only those procedures that take place after viability, abortion opponents complained that would leave most of the procedures legal.'

'Partial-Birth Abortion': Separating Fact From Spin : NPR

'Partial-Birth Abortion': Separating Fact From Spin

The Supreme Court's decision to consider the constitutionality of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act has pushed the issue into the spotlight. How did the term originate and why is it so controversial?

https://www.npr.org/2006/02/21/5168163/partial-birth-abortion-separating-fact-from-spin

LongtailedTitmouse · 11/09/2024 23:22

Autumnismyfavouritetimeofyear · 11/09/2024 23:01

The term 'partial birth abortion' is a right wing term. That is not the technical term for them. The term was deliberately coined to further a particular agenda.

Linked below is an article explaining' what this actually is. The following bit jumped out at me -

'And contrary to the claims of some abortion opponents, most such abortions do not take place in the third trimester of pregnancy, or after fetal "viability." Indeed, when some members of Congress tried to amend the bill to ban only those procedures that take place after viability, abortion opponents complained that would leave most of the procedures legal.'

'Partial-Birth Abortion': Separating Fact From Spin : NPR

I am not quite sure what you are denying? Trump is right wing so would take a right wing view. In these abortions (which your article states did include some that took places in the third trimester) the foetus is partly outside the mother when their life is ended. That Trump and many of his followers would consider this ‘after birth’ is consistent.

RaspberryParade · 12/09/2024 01:16

@LongtailedTitmouse Are you being deliberately silly?

MessinaBloom · 12/09/2024 01:23

LongtailedTitmouse · 11/09/2024 21:34

I see the usual parties have appeared to say their usual piece.

I also assumed she was getting paid when I saw her pro Trump tweets. It's very odd.

Will that be the mythical right wing Christian money that we are all meant to be swimming in?

I think there's little doubt she has funding from and connections with US conservative groups. She received funding from them in the past for her flights abroad; that much is known. She is in the US now and has just appeared on the Megyn Kelly show. Google Kelly at your peril.

KJK started off her round of Trump tweets yesterday with a corker: 'I hope Trump metaphorically crushes Kamala Harris'. What type of sentiment is that, particularly for the so-called leader of the Party of Women?

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/09/2024 01:36

That's mad! What was she thinking?Shock

XChrome · 12/09/2024 02:27

LongtailedTitmouse · 11/09/2024 23:22

I am not quite sure what you are denying? Trump is right wing so would take a right wing view. In these abortions (which your article states did include some that took places in the third trimester) the foetus is partly outside the mother when their life is ended. That Trump and many of his followers would consider this ‘after birth’ is consistent.

Nope. The means of termination happens while the fetus is still inside the woman's body, making death an inevitability no matter whether it happens 100% inside the body or not.
That's entirely different than a killing done after birth. After birth that is a citizen with rights, so it is completely illegal.

XChrome · 12/09/2024 02:34

LongtailedTitmouse · 11/09/2024 22:39

So committing mayhem upon legislators going about their work can be a protest?

Nobody commited mayhem in your example and your own link proved it.
What part of that don't you get?

Catsmere · 12/09/2024 02:35

Livinginaclock · 11/09/2024 17:31

Ha, same, and that's before I bring in my cats' views!

You mean you argue against your cats' views?

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LongtailedTitmouse · 12/09/2024 02:51

That's entirely different than a killing done after birth. After birth that is a citizen with rights, so it is completely illegal.

Unless you live in Belgium, Netherlands, possibly Canada,

LongtailedTitmouse · 12/09/2024 02:58

XChrome · 12/09/2024 02:34

Nobody commited mayhem in your example and your own link proved it.
What part of that don't you get?

”Capitol Police said approximately 150 people were “illegally and violently protesting”. It said six officers were treated for injuries, ranging from cuts to being pepper sprayed and punched.
“One person has been arrested for assault on an officer,” Capitol Police said on social media.”

How do you define mayhem?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/16/us-capitol-police-clash-with-protesters-calling-for-gaza-war-ceasefire

US Capitol police clash with protesters calling for Gaza war ceasefire

Police use pepper spray and fire projectiles with chemical irritants on ‘non-violent’ protesters in Washington, DC.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/16/us-capitol-police-clash-with-protesters-calling-for-gaza-war-ceasefire

XChrome · 12/09/2024 03:07

LongtailedTitmouse · 12/09/2024 02:58

”Capitol Police said approximately 150 people were “illegally and violently protesting”. It said six officers were treated for injuries, ranging from cuts to being pepper sprayed and punched.
“One person has been arrested for assault on an officer,” Capitol Police said on social media.”

How do you define mayhem?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/16/us-capitol-police-clash-with-protesters-calling-for-gaza-war-ceasefire

I see the goal posts have been moved. This is a completely different event than the one referenced earlier, which is what I responded to.
Try your games on somebody else.

TempestTost · 12/09/2024 03:07

XChrome · 11/09/2024 22:21

The WE is a right wing rag and that was merely an opinion piece with zero facts to back up the silly conclusions being made. In fact, there were outright lies in that piece.

It is not a lie that POC are disproportionately both targeted and killed by police. That is a stone cold, unassailable fact.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/

https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/8/13/17938186/police-shootings-killings-racism-racial-disparities

Roland Fryer's research - also out of Harvard - didn't come to the same conclusion. And arguably looked at the much more relevant measure of what happens within actual encounters between the police and criminals.

"Unassailable fact" is rather strong, under the circumstances.

XChrome · 12/09/2024 03:18

TempestTost · 12/09/2024 03:07

Roland Fryer's research - also out of Harvard - didn't come to the same conclusion. And arguably looked at the much more relevant measure of what happens within actual encounters between the police and criminals.

"Unassailable fact" is rather strong, under the circumstances.

I'm afraid that's not the case. His research actually found racial bias. He found POC were more likely to be targeted for non-lethal force. It was specifically in fatal police shootings that he determined there was no evidence of bias.

Be that as it may, critics found mathematical errors in his research, data that was either used misleadingly or was outright false, and that his protocol was faulty.

CrochetForLife · 12/09/2024 03:28

crimplepop · 11/09/2024 16:36

KJK going off on one again. Can you see it yet?

First post on here OP?

MessinaBloom · 12/09/2024 04:50

@CrochetForLife

First post on here OP?

Does it matter? You know regular users can change names, right?

If you don't see that KJK has increasingly extreme right wing links both in Britain and in the US, that's fine. It's okay for other people to point them out though.

CassieMaddox · 12/09/2024 07:10

"I see it's your first post on here" vs "I see the usual parties have appeared to say their usual piece."

It's a lose-lose

NotBadConsidering · 12/09/2024 07:16

Could well be both of course.

It’s like clockwork. Must be a calendar reminder that pops up. “Post monthly KJK thread”.

CassieMaddox · 12/09/2024 07:17

Yes. Maybe she has a reminder to post a controversial fight thread on twitter every month? Who knows.

NotBadConsidering · 12/09/2024 07:32

If that’s the case, why do people fall for it and start threads on MN about KJK’s tweets? How weak minded. As pp have said, she lives rent free in some people’s heads.

MessinaBloom · 12/09/2024 07:35

NotBadConsidering · 12/09/2024 07:16

Could well be both of course.

It’s like clockwork. Must be a calendar reminder that pops up. “Post monthly KJK thread”.

Well, KJK does provide plenty of fodder ... and that might be at the heart of it all.

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