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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans activists monitoring mumsnet

214 replies

Seriestwo · 07/09/2024 10:27

A particularly diligent trans identified male transactivist says there is a network monitoring “far right” activity on here.

which might explain why some
posters get suspended for saying things that some people find challenging to hear.

I’d like to keep hearing from TinselAngel. How do we protect her freedom of speech, expression, and you could probably argue association, from being limited by people who are known to harass women IRL?

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https://x.com/bettscaro/status/1832185614734688473?s=46

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 10/09/2024 23:42

Why blurred? It's all there in the post below.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/09/2024 00:02

Mumsnet users monitoring trans people and attempting to get them fired? Saw this on twitter, blurred some details.

The two posts below yours link the tweet and are discussing it, you're late to the party.

PurpleSparkledPixie · 11/09/2024 00:14

Perhaps I'm missing something, why is he blaming mumsnet? Did Justine call him out on her twitter account or is he just stabbing in the dark?

SinnerBoy · 11/09/2024 01:03

He's probably too lazy / dim / lacking in integrity to say that MN posters were trying, along with Twitter posters, to identify him, because of his illegal discrimination.

Christinapple · 11/09/2024 11:46

SinnerBoy · 11/09/2024 01:03

He's probably too lazy / dim / lacking in integrity to say that MN posters were trying, along with Twitter posters, to identify him, because of his illegal discrimination.

Trying to doxx her and get her fired because she is trans?

Fixed for you.

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2024 11:53

PurpleSparkledPixie · 11/09/2024 00:14

Perhaps I'm missing something, why is he blaming mumsnet? Did Justine call him out on her twitter account or is he just stabbing in the dark?

That's what I'm struggling with.

What's MN got to do with this?

Someone decided to report him, and somehow it's MNs fault because it's a MNetter? Based on a great klaxon heralding the voice of a MNetter when the phone rings?

Or just a random assumption based on precisely fuck all but hey MN are an easy scapegoat to blame and it gives street cred?

PurpleSparkledPixie · 11/09/2024 11:58

Christinapple · 11/09/2024 11:46

Trying to doxx her and get her fired because she is trans?

Fixed for you.

Can you please provide the evidence for any of that. All I have is the screenshot which actually says nothing.

Xenia · 11/09/2024 12:09

I think MN does a pretty good job of allowing our freedom of speech including on the trans issue. Many mumsnetters vote Labour and it would be ridiculous to call them far right. I vote Conservative but that is not very common on MN. Many women whether Labour or Tory want to protect the rights of biological women.

Plenty of people with a penis of all kinds want to shout women down and stop our voice being heard whether on the left, right or centre - so no change there....... Despite being a Tory I stand with Jess Phillips (Labour MP) when a bunch of men tried to boo and shout her down when she won for Labour. and she said "I understand that a strong woman standing up to you is met with ...." Some people think they can just shout women down hut that will not work.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 11/09/2024 12:41

Christinapple · 11/09/2024 11:46

Trying to doxx her and get her fired because she is trans?

Fixed for you.

Where is that post on mumsnet?

RufustheFactualReindeer · 11/09/2024 13:14

I’m assuming its not on mumsnet

so why is it a mumsnet problem?

ArabellaScott · 11/09/2024 14:42

It's not, it's just that we are a convenient bunch of women to come and shout at. Mumsnet is often confused with 'everybody's mum'.

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2024 14:45

ArabellaScott · 11/09/2024 14:42

It's not, it's just that we are a convenient bunch of women to come and shout at. Mumsnet is often confused with 'everybody's mum'.

MN is the Trans Boggieman.

That's about the level of it.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 11/09/2024 15:20

Wait, let me get this straight

christ has arrived with ‘evidence’ that mumsnet has been doxxing someone and trying to get them sacked

BUT

christ turned up with a carefully redacted copy of a twitter link that not only is a completely different forum but has already been posted on this thread because the the original poster obviously realised that it was fuck all to do with mumsnet and did not to be ‘hidden’

I’ve got that right haven’t I?

RufustheFactualReindeer · 11/09/2024 15:21

I that poster doesnt get invited to surprise parties…

JanesLittleGirl · 11/09/2024 15:57

Christinapple · 10/09/2024 23:21

Mumsnet users monitoring trans people and attempting to get them fired? Saw this on twitter, blurred some details.

You may want to read the original thread before you get too comfortable on your high horse.
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5073923-nhs-hr-person-claims-to-reject-gc-applicants?page=1

SinnerBoy · 11/09/2024 16:03

Christinapple · Today 11:46

Trying to doxx her and get her fired because she is trans? Fixed for you.

I'm afraid that that's a complete misrepresentation of the facts. He bragged that he would refuse to interview, much less employ, anyone with GC views.

Various people tried to identify him, it's true, as is only right and proper, as he chose to go online to boast about his deliberate and egregious breach of the Equality Act.

Are you really supporting a person who discriminates illegally? Why would you not want them identified and dealt with?

DrBlackbird · 11/09/2024 16:09

Christinapple · 11/09/2024 11:46

Trying to doxx her and get her fired because she is trans?

Fixed for you.

AFAIK Sam is not trans so no need for the performative pronouns.

But nothing like a little Darvo to get the blood pumping. Also illustrating the dangers of accepting tweets at face value.

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2024 16:41

So Sam did something first and posted on twitter about how the GC had 'come for them'. That was dated 20 April 2024. So there had clearly previously been an issue discussed with HR then. (If indeed this was real and not a made up story. It was later claimed to be made up by Sam which is mentioned on the original MN thread above).

Then in May a MN starts a thread with these screenshots from April in it, saying they'd like to clarify policy with the hospital as someone was saying that they were deliberately doing something unlawful whilst recruiting.

As well as a bunch of anti-MN posts.

They'd previously put up a tweet saying where they had worked, in effect meaning they were easily identifiable. That's poor understanding of what you put up on social media and how it might reflect on you and your employer. That technically might put you in breach of your employment contract over social media usage by bringing your employer into disrepute.

So a single MNetter (using a throwaway username never to be seen again) then claimed to have then contacted the hospital over concerns. We have no idea if this actually happened or was a set up. And the complaint did seem fairly reasonable, given it was boasting about acting unlawfully - and given they'd put their place of work online by their own free will, hard to argue in terms of doxxing.

The comments throughout the thread were not about getting someone sacked though but actually about clarifying policy and easing concerns over discrimination. And saying they doubted that Sam actually worked there at all and it wasn't real. And concerns over Sam's mental health.

This person has now done a gloat about how MN (plural as in everyone) doxxed them, didn't do their research because 'the trust found there was no one by that name working there'.

Which is hardly reflective of the original short three page thread. Nor the fact that concerns were much more about policy. Nor how numerous posters didn't think Sam was real and said so at the time.

Nor can we establish whether the poster who claimed to report was actually real and that the report did in fact happened. And wasn't just a set up to smear MN later on.

Either way there certainly wasn't a clamour of multiple posters begging for a head on a stick and a sacking. The fact it was only three pages shows the general lack of interest in this on MN. That's a far cry from what we've seen happen to gender critical women.

But Sam wants to make this out to be something that was much bigger than it was, and how much hate and vitriol MN had. It's rather attention seeking and frankly totally different to what was posted which can't even be said to be a regular MNetter rather than a set up.

Sam is seeking a drama and a boogie man.

ArabellaScott · 11/09/2024 16:44

Is that not.just some random X troll talking shite?

ApocalipstickNow · 11/09/2024 16:47

Christinapple · 11/09/2024 11:46

Trying to doxx her and get her fired because she is trans?

Fixed for you.

He/him pronouns- it literally shows that in the tweet you’ve redacted so you must know that. So you’ve just misgendered someone simply to have a pop at another poster.

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2024 16:47

DrBlackbird · 11/09/2024 16:09

AFAIK Sam is not trans so no need for the performative pronouns.

But nothing like a little Darvo to get the blood pumping. Also illustrating the dangers of accepting tweets at face value.

That thread says Sam posted something about not taking CVs then retracted saying it was a joke. Then there was a number of comments about how Sam wasn't actually really employed by any trust.

So it reads like a set up to get someone to report or to make it look like someone from MN reported to create outrage etc.

But no one was particularly arsed but wanted clarity on recruitment policy at most. And certainly didn't create a mass stampede calling for someone to be sacked.

Hardly MN is the root of all known evil.

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2024 16:49

ArabellaScott · 11/09/2024 16:44

Is that not.just some random X troll talking shite?

Pretty much by the look of it. MN didn't really take the bait last time.

We should be wise enough not to take it this time.

It's attention seeking babble.

TWETMIRF · 11/09/2024 17:00

ApocalipstickNow · 11/09/2024 16:47

He/him pronouns- it literally shows that in the tweet you’ve redacted so you must know that. So you’ve just misgendered someone simply to have a pop at another poster.

Christinapple is a transphobe and wishes Sam dead! That's what we get accused of when we 'misgender' people so that must apply here too, right? Or does it only apply to the 'bad people'?

ApocalipstickNow · 11/09/2024 17:02

TWETMIRF · 11/09/2024 17:00

Christinapple is a transphobe and wishes Sam dead! That's what we get accused of when we 'misgender' people so that must apply here too, right? Or does it only apply to the 'bad people'?

well, I guess we have to see the depth and quality of the apology that will be along any minute.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 11/09/2024 17:07

we have to see the depth and quality of the apology

There used to be poster who specialised in bad faith assertions and made a habit of failing to comprehend their own sources/links. Poster never acknowledged an error, accepted accountability for the errors, nor apologised.

iirc, that was a cocktail sort of name rather than a fruit, tho'.

Hardly MN is the root of all known evil.

How can a collection of women not be responsible for Original Since and all evil? You'll be claiming MN isn't a be-cardiganed monolith next.