Trans activists monitoring mumsnet

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A particularly diligent trans identified male transactivist says there is a network monitoring “far right” activity on here.

which might explain why some
posters get suspended for saying things that some people find challenging to hear.

I’d like to keep hearing from TinselAngel. How do we protect her freedom of speech, expression, and you could probably argue association, from being limited by people who are known to harass women IRL?

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'Freda', who during a discussion with a panel including Helen Joyce, had to be prompted by Peter Tatchell to put down the copious red wine he'd been quaffing because he was making such a show of himself?

I don't think the posters on here will be losing much sleep over Freda's opinion of them, to be honest.

I think Fred probably identifies more as a floaty little elf.

India W once screenshotted and tweeted a comment I made on MN about cutting my long hair off (to demonstrate to my kids that a haircut doesn’t change a person’s sex and I’m still their mum, not their new additional dad). IW was apparently horrified and in utter disbelief that I would sabotage my own woman-liness in this manner, to the point I was accused of making the whole thing up.

My hair is now back to collarbone length and it’s lush and thick and entirely my natural (titian red) with very little grey (just two white temple streaks that make me look like The Bride of Frankenstein on Dress Down Friday).

No one has once mistaken me for a man in this short-lived short-haired era and my hair is better off for cutting off the highlights.

Women don’t need hair transplants/bleach/extensions whatever to be unmistakably female but I guess it’s nice to know that IW (needlessly) worried about my hairdo!

I also engage the young Mormon men. But that's because, though I'm not LDS myself, a chunk of my extended family are, and there's a lot of fascinating history that the young missionaries don't know because church leaders have airbrushed it.

Also, thanks to 19th century polygamy, we're probably distantly related.

The principle stands that you only learn things by engaging with people who have different ideas. That's the case here, where there's a spectrum of ideas and robust argument. It even survives most of us coming from the left. And those of us who no longer identify with the left always have reasons for it - and it doesn't make us "far right", whatever the Labour stans say.

I'm nearly 50. I saw young people and vulnerable older people being led down a harmful dead end in their search to find answers to emotional pain is what made me think more deeply about gender.
If seeing vulnerable people being exploited makes me far right then so be it. When Germaine Greer said "I don't care". I thought she was being a little harsh. Frankly though now, I don't care.

Chill, Boiled - I couldn't bake a cake to save my life, lemon drizzle or anything else. I'll say anything for a laugh and 5 'thanks'😉

Just as an experiment to see if this gets deleted as a derail:
My FWR Cake Recipe
Take one egg and beat it. 😆

Christ, that's sad. Fancy being so obsessed with an unattainable wish that you sacrifice your actual native talent to it.

Unless it's just boob implants rather than anything more radical.

I believe he’s had genital surgery from the Instagram post. I find it incredibly sad someone so young would do something so extreme.

But.. but.. but.. I DON'T IDENTIFY AS FAR RIGHT!! How dare they!

However I am a very nice person so I will tell all the monitors to open their windows and curtains and breathe in all that fresh air. Helps the brain cells function apparently.

Well that sent me on a long and unexpected online journey😂

Still? Aren't they bored and tired of looking like big standard stalkers yet?

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'Floaty' is doing some heavy lifting there.

Participating in a debate on MN regards transgenderism is what helped to shift my views significantly.

Over the course of this particular thread, I went from ' oh live and let live, no one's being hurt' to a much more vocal opposition to what some Trans proponents are pushing for.

Thankyou MN posters for that! And for giving me confidence to openly say ' no this is messed up and the implications of this are huge'

Can’t believe my helpful comments to any lurking TIMS have been deleted! Fucksake MN! We all know men can’t be women. Women are not a feeling in a man’s head and we can ALWAYS tell.

@Boiledbeetle I can offer a navy cake recipe if you prefer but I warn you that it's heavy on the rum

FWR goes through periods where we lose lots of excellent posters. We mourn the fallen and hope for new posters to join and keep passing the flame.

Has Tinsel been banned? The one that was the saddest was the poster who worked in safeguarding (can’t remember their MN name) and knew a lot about grooming tactics. I found her posts so illuminating.

👍😂

Blessed day, Clog!

I think I saw her on Twitter say that she's been suspended on MN.

I obviously meant the ChatGTP thingy… god I feel like an old fogey who can’t even get the tech names right!!

Sounds perfect!. It's only lemon drizzle I have a pathological hatred of!

LangCleg

She rocked and knew her stuff. I understand why the traliban had to get her banned, she was a big problem for them.

What?!

@TinselAngel is that true?

And this is why free speech and debate is an important democrat process.

Stonewall's #nodebate was incredibly damaging to womens rights and child safety. Once seen as pure misogyny you can't unsee it.

I believe she's suspended?