Do women in the U.K. know or care about the threat to women’s and girls rights now they’ve voted labour?

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i know the tories record on public services are abysmal and bar some genuine believers like Kemi Badenoch the tories would likely go the trans route if they thought it would buy them votes. But, currently it’s the tories who offered to protect women and girls from the trans madness. My question is - which women voted in trans loving, women - hating Labour?

we can look forward to -

1. continued gender ideology being pumped out in schools
2. conversion ban - you better hope your child doesn’t start questioning their gender out loud because TRA ridden schools will be referring them to gender clinics and socially transitioning them now they have a mandate
3. same sex attracted lesbians (myself included) it’s completely game over. Keep your head down and your mouth shut. Trans identified males and their female allies have already closed down every women only night. Same sex attracted women are now labelled bigots. We are no longer welcome in London’s LGBT soup community
4. prisons - what happens to vulnerable women? They are already disbelieved and dismissed. Now they have to endure the staring and various forms of sexual harrassment that goes with being incarcerated with men

i can only hope our political landscape mirrors America and in the same way Trump will be voted back in this year, we will have The Tories being led by Kemi back in in 4 years time.

omg I can’t believe we have to kiss goodbye to women’s rights - for the next four years

back to my original question. Apart from TRA idealouges, why have women voted these clowns in? Is it that they prioritise the Tories terrible record on public services over this? Do some women not see it as a huge issue? would love to hear from some posters who voted Labour.

Thanks & stay safe out there, as women we have woken up to a a dark chapter in history today

The issue is that TW are men. Single sex spaces are no longer single sex if men are included, no matter how 'lovely' they might be. They are still male, and in being so infringe upon the dignity of women and girls in their intimate and private spaces.

I see lots of cross dressing men around where I live, and it is clear that for most it is a fetishistic sexualised practice. Voyeurs and boundary pushers are not wanted in spaces in which women are in a state of undress or anywhere in which the female body and biology are paramount. This is about basic dignity for women and girls.

If you are happy with mixed space spaces, that is up to you...perhaps you should campaign for third spaces so that all of the other women and girls who don't want this can also retain their dignity?

The tories were going to scrap the human rights act. That's far more of a threat to women

Yes to all this. Women‘s rights and safety are so much more than stopping men using our facilities.

Yes. Transactivists got a free ride by linking T with the popular and successful LGB movement. It was a deliberate strategy, dishonest and manipulative.

What a ridiculous post. The notion that any of these numbered points will be enacted is laughable. Imagine being so removed from reality that you actually think these things are happening, it’s actually quite endearing.

I vote for a better future for the many thousands of children living in poverty - just slightly more pressing a matter than the very very few that YOU think should not be able to live their lives as they choose. It’s always so funny to me when we see these “attacks on women’s rights” and “a dark era for women” posts. Like, how many trans people do you actually know?? None, I bet.

I'm hoping and praying that Kemi doesn't lose her seat. I am banking on her to fight the good fight for women and for common sense in general, and to be the next Tory leader then Prime Minister.

I think she was talking about toilets and changing rooms. Most of the new builds where I live have unisex toilets and changing rooms, if done well it should not be an issue. If you think that some women are too vulnerable for this, then you could lobby for individual units to be supplied for vulnerable people. The issue with prisons is over around abuse of claiming trans, so men who are not taking hormones etc saying they are trans for the wrong reasons. That is what you should be focusing on here, specific things which need attention, not on insulting all trans people or any woman who disagrees with any part of what you say.

I am horrified about how things are handled in schools, that is the key thing I would want revisited. Children should not be being taught about adult sex choices.

Don’t be ridiculous. Your post sounds-to use an old misogynistic term-hysterical.

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What a disgusting post. How dare you conflate voting for a party that values equality for all with the enslavement of millions of people. Reported.

You imagine you will be sharing with a couple of trans?

I'm not trans but if the mood takes me I can watch you (or your daughter if you have one) change and shower and you can't even ask if I'm trans because I could have you arrested. If your daughter competes in any sport any man can put a stop to that.

I don't know if your treatment has been unfair or not. Are you saying it's ok because you are loyal to the Trans Agenda or were not able to follow what's been going on because they used big words?

At this point I really don't think we had much choice.

I'll be surprised if Starmer's Labour solves any of these issues. They're not left-wing enough to make a dent in the root cause of capitalist greed that the Tories moulded this country to. It'll be Blairism and bullshit.

I agree. They'll also be under much more scrutiny on this issue now. Gender critical voices aren't going to disappear and they've seen what a shit-show the issue was for the SNP.

It wasn't a minor issue for those nurses forced to change, at work, with a man - and who were reprimanded for being upset and complaining; nor for the NHS workers in Scotland who were subject to the same just recently.

As more and more women start to be expected to tolerate that which makes them feel very uncomfortanble or distressed - for the sake of ideological dogma - more and more people will start to understand what all of the 'fuss' was about.

Nobody said it was the main issue for most voters......of course it wasn't...that doesn't mean it is not an issue of fundamental importance. Most people are not politically clued up - and tend to vote for bread and butter financial issues, and on things like the NHS ( see nurses above)

Sure. All people need ‘safe spaces’.

However, female people need single sex spaces. Male people with trans identities should be excluded from those spaces.

You mention discrimination as if it is something to be avoided at all times. This is and overly simplistic and absolutist approach. Not all discrimination is to be avoided, some discrimination is legitimate and is needed for protection and to counter negative sexist discrimination that female people still experience from birth.

Single sex spaces are legitimate forms of discrimination. Male people, regardless of their gender, need to be excluded to allow these spaces to work to protect female people.

They’re really not. Hence, Labour have won by an absolute landslide. Not sure how much clearer it can be that most people don’t actually care.

Hey thank you - I knew reform did well but I didn’t realise that was the statistic interns of labour gains. Whilst I’m not wild about the idea of reform gaining votes I’m glad it isn’t a huge swing towards Labour

"My dream is to be a handmaiden serving a world of men, that's why I voted labour "

Is that what you want to hear?

Well, if you’re a lesbian, then some of them are. And even if you’re not, some men are. And now it’s going to be easier for them to do so. All the eye rolls in the world won’t change that.

lol.

I have spent my career campaigning for and working in the VAWG sector. My opinion is based on experience and research.

But yeah, whatever, I must be sexist 🙄😆

All of the above has happened under our current government.......so no.
Let's face it Starmer can't be any worse, my biggest concern is the fact people have been dying because the absolute shitshow state of the NHS. That's my biggest priority.

And???

TW are still men

Have a look at who funded lobbying for this and who has funded promoting these issues in schools.

I would not pay attention to any of bloody misogynistic Campbell’s polls but in any event I’ll counter that characterisation with MN being an information chamber for women concerned (and some men) with their rights and children’s safeguarding.

Like the many women coming onto these boards saying ‘hasn’t happened to me’ or ‘my bff is a TW and she’s lovely’, those polled have not - yet - experienced the impact of GI on their lives or their children’s lives. So remain unaware. Though the awareness has grown.

But if GI continues unabated, then there’s a chance even more will be aware and uncomfortable with allowing our sex to be conflated with a homophobic, misogynistic and regressive gendered construct.

Well it is a good job some of us do care...for other women and for girls and children generally. For the girls whose toilets have been made mixed sex at school ( one school in Kent? recently reported 4 sexual assaults in the toiets since they did this)..and for the nurses starting their shift in tears because a man is changing in the women's changing room and is staring at their breasts as he speaks to them, and walking around in tight, little underpants.