Do women in the U.K. know or care about the threat to women’s and girls rights now they’ve voted labour?

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i know the tories record on public services are abysmal and bar some genuine believers like Kemi Badenoch the tories would likely go the trans route if they thought it would buy them votes. But, currently it’s the tories who offered to protect women and girls from the trans madness. My question is - which women voted in trans loving, women - hating Labour?

we can look forward to -

1. continued gender ideology being pumped out in schools
2. conversion ban - you better hope your child doesn’t start questioning their gender out loud because TRA ridden schools will be referring them to gender clinics and socially transitioning them now they have a mandate
3. same sex attracted lesbians (myself included) it’s completely game over. Keep your head down and your mouth shut. Trans identified males and their female allies have already closed down every women only night. Same sex attracted women are now labelled bigots. We are no longer welcome in London’s LGBT soup community
4. prisons - what happens to vulnerable women? They are already disbelieved and dismissed. Now they have to endure the staring and various forms of sexual harrassment that goes with being incarcerated with men

i can only hope our political landscape mirrors America and in the same way Trump will be voted back in this year, we will have The Tories being led by Kemi back in in 4 years time.

omg I can’t believe we have to kiss goodbye to women’s rights - for the next four years

back to my original question. Apart from TRA idealouges, why have women voted these clowns in? Is it that they prioritise the Tories terrible record on public services over this? Do some women not see it as a huge issue? would love to hear from some posters who voted Labour.

Thanks & stay safe out there, as women we have woken up to a a dark chapter in history today

Yes this does worry me about Labour but good god, anything is better than the Conservatives at this point. It was an unpalatable choice.

Hmm I'm not sure, I think people are starting to see the nonsense that Trans Ideology has become. Look at Scotland (where I am), the SNP have taken a beating and I'm sure the Isla Bryson incident played a part in that, buoyed up by the mentalist that is Patrick Harvey.

Hopefully women can push on Keir to ensure that women retain sex based spaces and sports and he doesn't make GRC easier, despite saying to the contrary.

It's the main reason I couldn't vote for Labour. I am seriously concerned about all the points you've raised and incredibly glad I am one of the child free members of Mumsnet.

You're a lesbian and you don't support trans rights? There's a T in LGBT you know

No I don't see this as a huge issue. I don't see trans people as some sort of dangerous or risky group that are out to get me 🙄

I think the result is the best we could have hoped for: a change in government but no groundswell of popular support for Labour. They do not have the mandate in terms of the popular vote to push through unpopular policies like anti-women GRC reforms.

You're a woman and you don't support women's rights?

You're a lesbian and you don't support trans rights?

She did explain that she is objecting to the male takeover of female spaces.

There isn't only a T in LGBT. The Ls are allowed a viewpoint too. Or should be.

My thoughts exactly.

I'm concerned about the rights of women to have access to single sex spaces.

But I think poverty, access to education and employment, access to healthcare, social care, childcare, violence and rape perpetrated by "cis" men, access to justice etc - are also issues very important to women on which they have been very badly failed by the Conservatives and are likely to do better under Labour.

As a woman, a mother to daughters and a grandmother to girls I wholeheartedly agree with you, and isn't it alarming how many women on the left are almost joyous about removing women's sex based rights?

There shouldn't be. LGB is to do with sexual orientation. T is not. I don't really understand why they were ever linked. And increasingly the T part represents homophobia and misogyny.

Let's just see how this plays out

I mean what were the alternatives- we know you are female sone you can be a second class citizen and no matter what your strengths you belong in the kitchen and we will do absolutely nothing to sort out traditional female problems like chikdcare, caring for the elderly, the disabled, and we know poverty affects women more but we will carry on and make that much worse so even more women are trapped in violent marriages and we will continue to slash the police and justice system so rape becomes de facto legal

But don't worry we know you are female

No, we are all just silly handmaidens. twirls hair

This ☝️ its about priorities.

I have a baby daughter and I am terrified of her growing up with this Labour government with its current ideologies. I don't want her learning about sexual stuff from aged 5 and about graphic sex at school and being taught that if girls are tomboys then they should take testosterone. I am terrified of her going to the leisure centre and being forced to share a changing room with a naked man who identifies as a woman.

It is now vitally important that all women who care about their rights individually and collectively push this at every opportunity. How about if everyone wrote to Keir Starmer today?

Perhaps if he realises the strength of feeling....

I'm in Ireland but very interested in what happens in the UK because it will affect what we do here eventually.

Many people don't trust Starmer because he shifts position so much. Well, now he's in, I guess that's a reason to be hopeful. It seems that he'd say anything to get into power. Now he's got it, what will he do with it?

I remember the GC philosopher Jon Pike, when Starmer was first elected as leader, saying that he knew him and thought well of him. He was (IIRC) surprised and dismayed at Starmer's later behaviour. Maybe now the election's over the real Starmer will step forward and he'll be the sensible person Pike remembered.

They are a danger - especially to lesbians. They won’t allow same sex lesbians to meet up or create their own dating / singles nights anymore. If you say out loud you won’t date trans women you will be asked to leave a social club. They ar literally eradicating our sexual orientation - not by existing but by saying there can be no women who say they will exclude trans women from their dating pool.

they are the most insane community and I can only assume you haven’t been affected by them directly yet. Give it time - they steam roll everyone eventually. There are many lesbians like me who have to stay quiet about our sexuality for fear of being doxxed or ostracised.

I made what I felt what the least worst option tbh. Am I worried about women's rights? Absolutely. But look at what has been happening to them for the last 14 years while under Tory government. Who have also ran he country into the ground. So I voted Labour who I feel will be best for the country and will be making my voice heard to my MP and in any other way I can regard women's rights. I am hoping that Labour will actually take stock of what has happened over the past couple of years, hear what women have been saying and we will finally be able to find a way through this mess making sure that everyone is free to feel safe, love their life however they choose with the support they need without women's legal rights being eradicated in the process.

The swing to Labour is 1%.

It’s the swing to Reform which has handed Labour their landslide. Voters switching from the Conservatives to Reform is what has caused the Conservatives to lose so many seats.

It’s not because of women voting for Labour.

You forgot about all the other letters that also force teamed themselves with the LGB.

People don’t care about women’s rights. A lot of women don’t care about other women’s rights. Let’s see what they do.

But is not just the rights of women to have acces to single sex spaces, it is the fundamental definition in law and society of what a woman is and the preservation of sex categories. Loss of single sex spaces is a down stream effect.

The GRA and the relentless campaign to redefine what the Equality Act are about is aimed at fundamental change to the wiring of society and how we view sex. They constitute a concerted effort to create new "rights", which is incredibly difficult to challenge as you are then taking "rights" away when you challenge them.

I hear you that other things matter are important from a feminist perspective and in many respects those things are unaffected by whether we have a female category of human, but in losing that category it may not be possible to get it back. For me that matters more than possibly marginal (and easily reversible) changes in policy and law in other areas.

And there should not be should there? T is not a sexuality.