Do women in the U.K. know or care about the threat to women’s and girls rights now they’ve voted labour?

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i know the tories record on public services are abysmal and bar some genuine believers like Kemi Badenoch the tories would likely go the trans route if they thought it would buy them votes. But, currently it’s the tories who offered to protect women and girls from the trans madness. My question is - which women voted in trans loving, women - hating Labour?

we can look forward to -

1. continued gender ideology being pumped out in schools
2. conversion ban - you better hope your child doesn’t start questioning their gender out loud because TRA ridden schools will be referring them to gender clinics and socially transitioning them now they have a mandate
3. same sex attracted lesbians (myself included) it’s completely game over. Keep your head down and your mouth shut. Trans identified males and their female allies have already closed down every women only night. Same sex attracted women are now labelled bigots. We are no longer welcome in London’s LGBT soup community
4. prisons - what happens to vulnerable women? They are already disbelieved and dismissed. Now they have to endure the staring and various forms of sexual harrassment that goes with being incarcerated with men

i can only hope our political landscape mirrors America and in the same way Trump will be voted back in this year, we will have The Tories being led by Kemi back in in 4 years time.

omg I can’t believe we have to kiss goodbye to women’s rights - for the next four years

back to my original question. Apart from TRA idealouges, why have women voted these clowns in? Is it that they prioritise the Tories terrible record on public services over this? Do some women not see it as a huge issue? would love to hear from some posters who voted Labour.

Thanks & stay safe out there, as women we have woken up to a a dark chapter in history today

No, we are still entitled to privacy and dignity too

You can post as many videos of men with long hair as you like, they're still not women.

Sorry? This person is what? A transwoman? Ok. I don't need to look at their Facebook.

They are living fulfilling lives? Ok. Are they fully respecting the needs of female people as a male person themselves? Or are they demanding that society affirm their philosophical belief?

Actually, nature gets to decide which sexed body category humans belong to. I think you will find that material reality is inescapable. Humans may try to make modifications, but they really can't. Until a device has been invented that changes the coding in every single cell in the human body to the opposite sex, nature will be the material reality.

"But these stories and examples probably don't matter to you, real people, with real needs and wants, to have careers and families and success.... all you seem to care about is whose sharing your loo..."

It is very interesting that you have resorted to this emotional appeal. Another emotionally manipulative tactic.

Can you point out to me where I have said that people with transgender identities 'don't matter'? Because I think you have just dishonestly misrepresented my own position. I have stated very clearly that the rights of female people based on sex should be prioritised above gender when sex matters. Do you disagree with that position 100%?

Do you fully support that female people should not have female single sex spaces? Do you fully support that male people should compete in all female sporting events? Do you fully support that on boards that are supposed to be balanced by sex to give female people equal representation that those boards should be able to have males who state they are female in those positions reserved for female people?

You heard it here, women “you don’t get to decide who belongs in your space”

Humtum, does that include eg healthcare professionals who might be performing intimate examinations & care?

Yes, you're absolutely right.
Sorry, I'm typing with anger rather than sense.

That was not my point though. I was questioning whether you had actually engaged as you seem to think that you have.

No you didn't. For example you didn't clearly address the two points I asked you about what you want.

I'm not here to indulge your irrelevant whataboutery questions, I was quite clear on what policies I wanted. It's really quite simple.

Since I haven't used that phrase anywhere, I don't see why I should have to. Is this your entitlement to pull anyone and everyone up kicking in again?

Yea you very clearly want same sex spaces with absolutely no clarification on the rules and regulations of what that means.

It's not my job to sort it out 🤷‍♀️

Did anyone spot any fresh arguments being made from the let-men-do-whatever-they-want crowd or was it the same old shit?

Same old shit

It was the same old shit.

Single sex facilities are legal. All the work around what they are for and who should be able to use them has already been done.

Well you can't seem to rely on the integrity of women in these spaces either is my point seen as many gender non conforming women are being challenged as being men instead of giving a moments thought to the fact they may just be a woman who doesn't fit your notion of how she should look.

Single sex facilities are legal. All the work around what they are for and who should be able to use them has already been done.

Yes. But let's pretend we don't understand why single sex spaces exist and what they are about.

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Yea you very clearly want same sex spaces with absolutely no clarification on the rules and regulations of what that means.

@Whatever1964 what rules and regulations are required? Sex is immutable. Same sex is clear. Oh you mean you want men to qualify as women if they have long hair!??! Right...

No it's the job of MPs apparently but they all need to misread what changes you want made apparently.

For somewhere that isn't a hive mind a great deal of you are very unwilling to put your own opinion out on things the hive hasn't decided an agreed response to...

Whatever happened to relying on a person’s integrity to not enter a space or competition not meant for them?

It says something really, doesn't it. Something that this poster doesn't seem to want to acknowledge without a lot of whataboutery. What it says, is quite damning, and undermines their whole ideology.

Male entitlement and female socialisation - name a more iconic duo.

It even happens, see Nottingham grooming gangs and that awful case discussed here in Berlin where a 14 yr old was ganged raped in a park. Also the Cologne New Year's Eve attacks a while ago.

Colour me shocked. Anyone and everyone? Nope just people who are ok with men identifying as women but can’t state what that means exactly, and those that are struggling with understanding same sex spaces and who they are for and why. Such as yourself.

Well are male cleaners allowed? Male children? Transmen are female sexed so they're allowed? But how do you verify them from the other men? And don't give you can always tell again, tell me the actual practicalities and what the repercussions should be for breaking them. And are you all going to keep policing them yourselves or do you want toilet attendants?

Oo its so complicated.

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Yeah I was teaching EYFS today and it’s that time of year in SRE so we slapped a porno on for them this afternoon. They were a bit confused and thought it was a wrestling match, kept wanting the woman to hit her partner with a chair! 🙄🙄 or maybe we are teaching children of that age the correct names for their private parts to protect them from sexual abuse …