Farage says Andrew Tate is an important voice for men

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How can so many people still be in the thrall of Farage and Reform UK when harldy a day goes by without another horrifying story about Farage emerges. Now he's telling us that Andrew Tate is an important voice for men. Tate is a vile representation of the human race. who glorifies hitting and choking women. Why would any woman vote for Reform UK?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/20/nigel-farage-andrew-tate-important-voice-men-podcast-interview

Because we've got eyes and ears and the brainpower to process the input from those senses and draw conclusions.

Weird answer

hamstersarse · Today 06:55
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He has not been accused of rape

He most certainly has been accused of rapes, by a Romanian magistrate.

He has been accused of trafficking because he set women up and managed them on Only Fans

All the women victims said the same thing, they were kept captive and forced to have sex with loads of men, which in most people's worlds is rape.

I feel sorry for you, that you don't understand that and see fit to defend a stain on humanity.

Since when was trafficking a suitable career for your child to consider?

Fairly sure I've never seen an only fans table at the careers day.

What was his exact message to young men about women? How to behave with them? Facts please. Educate me

He captured many. Including some on this thread.

Who knew FWR channeled misogyny?!

Tate was did capture so many young men because there is definitely an issue for young men wrt role models and online media. He spotted that. And knew the best way to hook them in to be used by him.

If he was as great as you think, he'd have campaigned for young men in an entirely different way.

I really don’t think that’s true

It would be better if it were true, but from what I’ve seen there aren’t any accounts in the court proceedings that are saying anything like that

Disgusting pair of specimens. Quite alarming to see so many young people declaring that they will vote Reform at all tbh.

So you are outraged by a person you’ve never watched / list-ended to.
sounds like an intelligent move

Really?

"Tate was indicted in June along with his brother Tristan and two Romanian citizens on charges of human trafficking, rape and forming a criminal gang to sexually exploit women"

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/26/europe/andrew-tate-rape-case-trial-romania-intl/index.html

There's you, with egg on your face. You don't even know the basic facts.

For the same reason they followed Hitler in the 1930s. Or Charles Manson in the 1960s. A charismatic man offers disillusioned young men a vision of an alternative life, one in which they can be successful and rich. And they buy it. It’s a tale as old as time. On a smaller scale, it’s exactly how gang leaders operate when recruiting teenagers.

And if you tell them they’re being exploited and the charismatic man has his own interests at heart and not theirs, they double down because you are part of the conspiracy against them. The only real defence against it is the robust defence system which is created by a stable home, loving family, hobbies and a sense of life purpose. Unfortunately not all teenage boys have all those, so they’re vulnerable to anyone who offers them an alternative.

The same reason so many people follow Trump. They're irrational, full of unreasoning anger, low in critical thinking ability, therefore they are ripe for the picking for con artists of that sort.

Nice try making an appeal to popularity. Not a valid argument.

This is what they are charged with:

Romanian prosecutors have charged the Tates, along with two female defendants, of sexually exploiting seven women as models for an erotic webcam business. The prosecution alleges the Tates recruited the women under false pretenses by pretending they were in love with them, and then coercing them through a mixture of intimidation and emotional manipulation into working while the Tates and their associates took most of the earnings.
Central to the case are allegations involving three women one American, one Moldovan and one British whom the Tates are accused of luring to Romania and exploiting them on webcam. Prosecutors also allege the Tates recruited four women inside Romania also by deceiving them into believing they were in a relationship.

He has not been charged with rape.

I am not defending him, I don’t like him, but he hasn’t actually been charged with rape

Stop getting your information from The Guardian and the BBC.

Why?

I suspect the terms 'leftie, 'woke' and 'MSM' are going to appear in the response.....

Well hello there.
You think it's weird to take in information, process it and draw conclusions from it?

Now I'm confused. Is there some other way to get information and analyse it to draw conclusions from it?

Smell perhaps?

Interpretive dance?

@hamstersarse as it happens, I do have a son in his 20s who tells me about AT. My son is not a conspiracy nutter and he has a proper job, not pimping. The matrix, fucking hell.

This thread alone shows the calibre of some Reform voters.

How is this discussion happening on the feminist board? I know the guardian often gets a kicking, as does anything “woke”, but this is another level entirely. I don’t follow enough to know if the PPs are regular but, by gum. I’m off to work.

You said he has not been accused of it. He has. Trafficking does not happen without rape. Rape cases rarely get charged, so it's not surprising they didn't follow through.

You 100% have been defending him, so just stop with the disclaimers. Your posts, even with talk of the matrix and such, are failing to entertain me, so goodnight.

Exactly, I thought we were proud of our critical thinking here on FWR and didn't just lap up whatever the MSM try and feed us.

Hamster

really don’t think that’s true

Well, it is true.

It would be better if it were true, but from what I’ve seen there aren’t any accounts in the court proceedings that are saying anything like that

If only the world's greatest information resource was at your fingertips, you'd be able to see for yourself that what I wrote is true. Not only that, the Police in Bedfordshire have an international arrest warrant for him, for sexual violence and rape.

If you want to stick your head in the sand, it's not my problem.

Farage is a fascist. With a hefty dose of entitlement thrown in and now misogyny. The problem is that for many people (the ones who are stupid, incapable of critical thought, the bigoted and the deluded) he's extremely plausible.

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Exactly all of that.

I agree with the posters (or poster who keeps name changing) that it's important to analyse Tate and all he stood for, and what boys were / are getting from him.

I hope they conclude what young men (and their parents) are missing from their lives and education that they treat a self serving manipulative narcissist as if he's the messiah.

Men need to do the work though; women are working round the clock to do this for girls.

There are hundreds of articles but I went with Fox News because I thought the BBC/Guardian/Independent/CNN might make you think Tate is being targeted by the left wing media.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/andrew-tate-charged-rape-human-trafficking-romania

LegoTherapy Today 07:18

This thread alone shows the calibre of some Reform voters.

Mostly aspiring for promotion to 0.177.