Farage says Andrew Tate is an important voice for men

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jomartin281271 · 25/06/2024 00:19

How can so many people still be in the thrall of Farage and Reform UK when harldy a day goes by without another horrifying story about Farage emerges. Now he's telling us that Andrew Tate is an important voice for men. Tate is a vile representation of the human race. who glorifies hitting and choking women. Why would any woman vote for Reform UK?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/20/nigel-farage-andrew-tate-important-voice-men-podcast-interview

Farage said Andrew Tate was ‘important voice’ for men in podcast interview

Reform UK leader has also argued against diversity quotas and said people on benefits were ‘too stupid’ to work in appearances over past year

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/20/nigel-farage-andrew-tate-important-voice-men-podcast-interview

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Echobowels · 28/02/2025 17:09

LargeSquareRock · 25/06/2024 09:14

Can I suggest that any mum of pre-teen or teen boys watch a few Andrew Tate videos. It is impossible to defeat what you don’t fully understand. Andrew Tate is very insidious in what he does and knowledge is power.

Your 12 year old son isn’t going to be reading news stories on Andrew Tate and his misogyny, mistreatment of women and his utter contempt for men who don’t fit his narrow view of what masculinity is. He’s not going to read about Andrew Tate’s money making scams and how he sucks money from vulnerable young men and teen boys.

He’s going to be seeing videos and sound bites that resonate with him. That seem reasonable. That seem ok. He's going to be told that society views men and boys as a problem. He’s going to be told that there’s nothing wrong with being a man and that masculinity is a great good in the world. He’s going to be told to respect himself and his body. Be healthy. Don’t use drugs. Be strong. Be a leader. Work hard. He’s going to remember all the “unfair” times at school when in his mind girls got away with stuff that the boys didn’t. He’s going to remember being told off for boisterous play and exuberance. He’s going to remember that the books he wanted to read, about explorers and adventurers were never in the library and if they were, how the librarian sneered at his interest. Your son will see Andrew Tate videos and telling your son to not watch them and that Andrew Tate is a nasty misogynistic arsehole won’t cut it. Andrew Tate is a nasty misogynistic arsehole, albeit a very fascinating one. Because that is not who your son will see at first. And before you know it, it will be too late.

Parents need to understand Andrew Tate. Talk to your sons about him. Talk about videos you have watched. I talk to my son about him all the time. I tell my son that he will see videos and they will seem fine and positive and inspiring. I tell my son that he is smart and he must use his critical thinking skills. I tell my son that there will come a point where something doesn’t sit right and that’s the time to think about what Andrew Tate’s endgame is and to talk to me about it. I won’t be angry. I won’t be disgusted. I won’t screech and wail about “the patriarchy”. But I will help guide him through without judgement.

Just for the record, the four families I know with sons stuck down the Andrew Tate rabbit hole all are leftie progressive families with strong independent mums. None of these mums and dads would have dreamt of trying to understand Andrew Tate and they are bewildered as to why their sons love him when they told their sons that he was evil and a misogynist and that their sons should never watch him. That way doesn't work.

Brilliant post.

Fastfad · 08/03/2025 14:12

IT GETS WORSE: SPOTIFY AS GIVEN THEM A PODCAST, with loads of fake bots saying thy wnt Tate as PM ! they also launched a reform style porject called BRUV.

Meanwhile an ex-army man r+ped his ex and killed her her sister and mother with a cross-bow, the same day as watching one of his videos in the UK this week!

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biscuitandcake · 08/03/2025 17:27

Echobowels · 28/02/2025 17:09

Brilliant post.

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I do agree, except...

"He’s going to remember that the books he wanted to read, about explorers and adventurers were never in the library and if they were, how the librarian sneered at his interest. "

Sometimes those books are in the library, and the librarian didn't sneer (not saying this never happens but most librarians are often very enthusiastic for kids to read anything really. Especially boys). I am a woman but I could convince myself as a teen that no-one loved me and I was all alone just walking home at night in winter as I passed all the brightly lit windows. It is a teen thing to feel like that and enjoy feeling like that at times - BUT boys and girls also face genuine problems/injustices as well. So unpicking what's real and what isn't actually justified is complicated. I saw one of those youtube clips with my son and he was like "yeah, why don't we have activities for boys" and I had to point out that he went to a (boys only they have a seperate one for girls) football group every week put on by volunteers. And that there is a big football field near us floodlit every evening so him and his friends can play even when it gets dark. And there are frequently people there putting on events etc. If he was shy/stayed indoors more as a kid he probably wouldn't even be aware of it. As it is - he took it for granted the same way that I am sure girls also take things created for them for granted.

So, its how do you balance listening to teenagers, and understanding genuine grievance with not feeding to an unjustified sense that the world hates them in a way that is unhealthy? They are vulnerable to grifters in the same way "trans kids" are (that's another debate but I think Andrew Tate and the likes of Jeffrey Marsh are not so different.)

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