Pride in primary school

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Help me get my head around this. Primary school is making a huge deal about pride, and running a themed summer fair to celebrate. The whole school - kids and parents - are expected to get involved. Including an educational seminar for the parents that we are expected to attend!

I’ve been told point blank I am a dinosaur for questioning why there is such an emphasis on celebrating LGBTQ+ communities to a bunch of kids who probably don’t think about any of this stuff yet. There is already a carefully planned curriculum around all of this from the LA so I am confused as to why the school feels the need to go even further, particularly holding a massive event outside of school hours! I feel I have other things I would rather do with my Saturday morning, and I feel attending Pride events should be a choice for families to make for themselves.

One parent is no longer speaking to me because she was so horrified I even questioned the event - so hoping someone could come along with some advice.

Don’t get me started on sports day, when the kids all compete against each other (up until year 5) - which means the boys win pretty much everything and the girls come away empty handed. Again apparently I am ridiculous for daring to point out how unfair it is. Really fed up with it.

Again with the lies. Your post is inaccurate, I am requesting it removed or ot will be reported.

I clearly stated he referred to the statement referencing arousal. And the fact he wasn't familiar with the language of the second part.

Your insisting about a sixteen year old reaction as requested is actually as concerning as the scare tactics applied on these forum. And clearly shows the bullying nature .

I have clearly stated opinion several times. Please refer to my previous numerous posts.

@Marblessolveeverything
Again with the lies. Your post is inaccurate, I am requesting it removed or ot will be reported.
If you do that you'll ruin the thread for future scrapers because it will have holes in it.

I'm sorry I can't see any posts explaining about whether disabled children can be born in the wrong body - could you point me to them please?

I am answering about Pride in our school. I have explained the approach our school has taken to the trans question. I have explained how teens in our school have navigated practical challenges.

Having a severely physically disabled child in my family who has been in pretty much constant distress since they were born I am respectfully not going to answer your question because it really is a question I can't allow my head to go to, I hope you can understand .

I clearly have stated we work on under standing when a person says they are trans they believe their body is the wrong sex. That is as clear as I can make my opinion.

Let us know which school it is and we can make are own minds up. Or even just area so you don’t out yourself.

What lies? I've posted numerous links to information about autogynephilia. This condition exists.

I was just pointing out that your children have been taught some waffly nonsense about trans people being born in the wrong body, when the reality is much more complex and some of it is quite abusive towards women and children.

I can easily imagine a 16-year-old boy laughing on being told that some men get aroused at the thought of themselves as women. But this isn't some sort of fiction. It's real. Read the trans widows threads. And if schools are going to teach children about 'what trans is' the fact that this is a sexual fetish for many men should be included.

But you also said that your 16-year-old, even though he laughed at the thought of these men, said that they should be respected. I disagree. I don't owe respect to anyone who uses other non-consenting people as their sexual props.

The post is a lie of my response the poster has a choice retract and apologise or it is reported and I encourage anyone else to do the same.

It is disgusting to let the insinuation of my son response. I won't let a lie between left of what I posted.

Final time for those who are struggling

He reacted to someone discussing what is in another's head at a private time

He dismissed the wormhole as am I

He and I respect all people full stop .You may want to try it sometime.

Remove your post or have it reported because it is clearly states he disrespectful of women and girls. It implies he laughed at that, I clearly stated he did not. That he laughed at them being threatened or disrespected.

That is a horrible and inaccurate statement of a sixteen year old. Take some responsibility for your actions. Inaccurate quoting of others posting is covered in the guidelines.

So your 10 year old has been indoctrinated - people are never ‘born in the wrong body’.

Ask him if he's ok with girls who claim to be boys coming into his toilets when he's stood at the urinal with his penis on show. Or joining him in the changing rooms for swimming.
Ask him if he thinks rapists should be locked up with vulnerable women in prisons?

Have you not heard about Transwidows?
Here’s just one of the many threads on MN
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3471122-trans-widows-escape-committee-2-the-trans-widows-strike-back?page=15&reply=87728323

So you're basing your opinion on the one sided nonsense your DS is being exposed to in school. That’s not exactly great parenting. If my child came home from school and said they’d been taught that people think its great to cut off healthy body parts like penises because boys who didn’t play with trains when they were toddlers must really be girls, Id be straight onto the school to challenge this nonsense. Queer theory is extremely misogynistic, homophobic and downright dangerous.

You really should do a bit of reading up here.

Do you have any daughters?

What’s the T for then?

Given the ridiculous way his response was treated I won't be asking him anything.

To have them tormented, eh no thanks

I suggest you read my post on his school approach to this issue.

Again you claim to know what I ordered my school teach. I suggest you reread the several posts where I have clearly stated what is taught.

I am basing my opinion on my experience as is my children.

I clearly stated that I shared his experience in navigating the usual toilets issue raised. I am discussing children's experiences in schools were Pride is celebrated.

How on earth could a child have an adults perspective?

🤣🤣🤣so the sex of your children validates an opinion. None of your business, my collective children attend the same schools and shared the same experience.

I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but since you have, yet again, completely misunderstood (deliberately perhaps?) what I've been saying, I'll try once more.

Remove your post or have it reported because it is clearly states he disrespectful of women and girls. It implies he laughed at that, I clearly stated he did not. That he laughed at them being threatened or disrespected.

Try reading my posts again. That's not what I said. I'll repeat my exact words:

I can easily imagine a 16-year-old boy laughing on being told that some men get aroused at the thought of themselves as women.

How does this "clearly state" that he is disrespectful of women and girls? And where did I say that he laughed at this? It seemed quite clear from your post that he found the idea of a man becoming aroused at the thought of himself as a woman was ridiculous and laughable. A lot of people must have the same reaction. But being a teenage boy it probably didn't cross his mind that these fetishists would be invading women's spaces and making the women feel uncomfortable and unsafe. I never suggested that he was laughing at the female victims of these men.

I think another poster (not me) suggested that his reaction was disrespectful to women and girls. I doubt the fact that there were female victims of these men crossed his mind, and that he was just laughing at the absurdity of men getting off on pretending to be women (because, let's face it, it is ridiculous).

So please stop accusing me of saying things I haven't said.

Inaccurate quoting of others posting is covered in the guidelines.

Yes. Please desist.

I don't really understand your perspective that that's not a question you can allow your head to go to. But I guess everyone copes with these things in their own way.

I would gently suggest you read up a bit more about the damage that the idea that a child can be "born in the wrong body" can do. Even Mermaids and Stonewall, who are the biggest pushers of gender ideology, have backtracked from using that phrase.

There is also plenty of peer-reviewed scientific evidence that there is no such thing as a female brain in a male body and vice versa https://www.transgendertrend.com/born-in-the-wrong-body/

I understand that you're coming from the perspective of wanting to be kind and inclusive but it is important to look past the surface on these things and question whether what you've been told is actually true and, worse, creating significant harm to children that don't conform to rigid sex stereotypes.

@Persianpuss thank you for understanding, my way to be able to help with the beautiful child who sadly is on significant pain relief constantly and is distressed when conscious is to never go to the what ifs because I don't think anyone of us could deal.

Perhaps because we feel so useless in helping them and fearful that we face what we never really appreciated, we naively always assumed we could always give comfort to our loved ones. That is something we learnt the hard way, and I found that so difficult to accept - honestly I don't think I ever will.

children understand adults who are trans feels they are in the wrong body. Adults, the same as I explain adults make decisions etc on religion or views on the world. My ten year old doesn't conceptualise it as a child issue.

children understand adults who are trans feels they are in the wrong body. Adults, the same as I explain adults make decisions etc on religion or views on the world. My ten year old doesn't conceptualise it as a child issue.

Which begs the question wtf is a primary school doing celebrating adult issues?