Pride in primary school

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Help me get my head around this. Primary school is making a huge deal about pride, and running a themed summer fair to celebrate. The whole school - kids and parents - are expected to get involved. Including an educational seminar for the parents that we are expected to attend!

I’ve been told point blank I am a dinosaur for questioning why there is such an emphasis on celebrating LGBTQ+ communities to a bunch of kids who probably don’t think about any of this stuff yet. There is already a carefully planned curriculum around all of this from the LA so I am confused as to why the school feels the need to go even further, particularly holding a massive event outside of school hours! I feel I have other things I would rather do with my Saturday morning, and I feel attending Pride events should be a choice for families to make for themselves.

One parent is no longer speaking to me because she was so horrified I even questioned the event - so hoping someone could come along with some advice.

Don’t get me started on sports day, when the kids all compete against each other (up until year 5) - which means the boys win pretty much everything and the girls come away empty handed. Again apparently I am ridiculous for daring to point out how unfair it is. Really fed up with it.

There is no existing evidence that a rainbow was chosen “to draw in children.” The original rainbow flags were flown in San Francisco in June 1978. At the time, the San Francisco gay community was busy fighting California Proposition 6 (the Briggs Initiative), which was seeking to ban gays and lesbians from working in public schools. They were focused on demonstrating that they were normal adults who were able to be around children without trying to “recruit” them into any kind of sexual “lifestyle.”

If you want the history behind “why a rainbow”:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_flag_(LGBT)

Interesting history. The rainbow is the Old Testament symbol of peace between God and humanity, of course, as well as having resonance in American Native mythology - rainbows are world wide.

Unfortunately, even if by simple chance, they are everywhere, truly everywhere, in children’s things in a way they were not before.

It is, but this particular fetish is often not viewed as having actual victims. Transvestism (which AGP is an extreme version of) has often been seen as harmless, as this article in the Guardian from a few years ago shows.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/nov/03/my-life-in-sex

I bought my first pair of knickers in January. Within a month, I was wearing knickers and tights under my clothes almost all the time. My partner of 20 years has embraced this wholeheartedly. Sometimes we go shopping together. I let the sales ladies know I am shopping for myself. As I pay, I smile and wink, as if to say, “I am enjoying this even if you aren’t.”

But the guardian editors being (presumably) adults, should have realised that what they were portraying as a humorous, titillating story was really about sexual abuse of the non-consenting shop assistant who was being forced to participate in this man's fetish.

What is that?! Was that a real event, with real police?!

Yes it was at a Pride march quite a few years ago. In Brighton I think.

I was being careful. I particularly dislike the'progress' flag which suggests allowing men in women's spaces to indulge their fetish is progressive.

You say “they” as if the modern LGBTQ+whatever people are the exact same people as the gay and lesbian movement in the late 1970s. Many of the activist figures from the 1970s are elderly or dead. (Harvey Milk was assassinated a few months after the rainbow flag debuted, and AIDS killed off many of the men.) And most of the modern people were either children or not yet born in the 1970s.

Movements change, for better or for worse.

wonder if PIE hasn't been waiting in the wings all these years.

Of course they have been. Paedophiles have not gone away.

Wow, the monitors are heavy tonight. Kind of bizarre, I didn't say anything that hasn't been said here 1000 times.

THIS. We see it.

100% agree. The LGB lobby, as it was until 2015, never asked for any rights the rest of society hasn't always taken for granted. Nothing they wanted ever infringed one iota on the rights of others. Section 28 was a travesty. It's an insult to those who fought for gay rights that this is inaccurately and disingenuously being brought into the recent TQ lobbying.

Your last paragraph says all that needs to be said about the normalisation of the 'Q'. This, lest we forget, is the lobby group who regard the word 'safeguarding' as a dogwhistle. They're now in plain sight, shouting to the world loudly and clearly who they are. What possible excuse can there be for not believing them?

Or for bloody flags everywhere - banks, building sites, all along regent street, tv, apps, cosmetics… even on packs of cat treats.

Yep. That includes the red ones.

OP your thread is in the Critic!

https://thecritic.co.uk/lactose-intolerance/

Spot on

Agree with you OP. There's a huge difference between Year R and Year 6 in primary school, I wouldn't really want very little children discussing such adult topics such as any type of sexuality which is what will end up happening. It's just not appropriate and that used to be common sense.

Also, Pride is so political and controversial now. I'd put it akin to supporting a political party or religion these days because of the TQ allyship thing. I'd rather children made up their own minds, like any other belief system.

Most of these kids have a patent, uncle , aunty, grandparents, friends all from the gay community. It's absolutely got and proper that they are understood and accepted

You don't get to throw your weight around here and bully posters. You may be used to it on reddit or whichever mens rights forums you go on, but you don't get to be a bully here. You don't tell us what to say.

I would have supported it when it was purely the LGB. But extras have regressed gay rights and now it is more like a cult grooming victims.

Sorry but that sounds too much like grooming to me, it sounds far too heavy for young children, too much and too cult-like. I would be deeply concerned if that was my child's school. There are all kinds of safeguarding red flags in that.

He will attend the march and participate in family events.

Does he even have a choice?

Q until the last 10 years, stood for Questioning. Never 'que*r'.

Not a reply to just you but in general, I really hate the term 'straight', as it implies being gay is 'bent' or 'crooked'. I just say hetero. Or heterosexual.

@VashtaNerada You are misinformed there. Boys advantage is obvious well before puberty (though all you need to do is attend a primary school sports day and the boys always have better finishing times): womenssportspolicy.org/pre-puberty-male-female-children-show-marked-differences-in-sport-performance/