Bondi killings

[BeagleMum2024]

Been thinking about this horrendous incident. Why do innocents have to suffer ( majority female victims it appears) because a man has lost control of himself? Why didn't this nasty man just fuck somewhere and end himself quietly? I keep looking at photos of the mother who has been murdered and my thoughts are with her baby who is fighting for his or her life, and of course the other victims and their families.

Omg where do you live?? This would literally never happen to me where I am! (midlands UK)

Apart from nobody said ‘it never happens to males’ did they?

South coast. Coastal towns seem to have high levels of oddballs around here. It’s got a lot worse over the last 2 years although I’m not sure why. I’m probably accosted a few times a week.

Nice strawman, my post never mentions that people with serious mental health problems have higher levels of violence, perhaps you are projecting.

My point is that the PP was looking for a reason why this happened, and I'm suggesting that as we're dealing with an irrational thinker then ascribing a motive is asinine.

Clearly in your mind mental health diagnosis = irrational thinker.

It may be the case with this man. But we don't know that at this stage.

All we know is that you believe people with mental health problems can't be rational thinkers, perhaps that's what the poster was highlighting?

So sorry @BeagleMum2024 I meant to quote @Ingenieur with that last post

Well I’ve been very seriously mentally unwell (I was almost sectioned - long story, don’t want to go into it on here) and I certainly wasn’t thinking rationally, isn’t that what mental illness literally does?

It has been confirmed that the murderer has a diagnosis of schizophrenia so it is characteristic of that diagnosis that he would have disordered thinking, delusions, misperception of reality and psychosis.

Which is why I don't believe it is useful to suggest that a rational motive can be ascribed to these horrific and saddening crimes.

@Ingenieur
@GoodnightAdeline

The point is, neither of you know his state of mind at the time of the attacks. Neither of you.

So stop confidently declaring that you do.

I agree, and I think an apology was hardly necessary. It seemed obvious to me that @ArcaneWireless was talking about it from the killer’s perspective, not actually saying they thought the security ‘got in the way’. I too salute people who apologise though.

Daily fail showing photos of his parents-disgusting! They shouldn't be hounded like this. I have a family member who has just come out of an 18 month psychosis (it's like a light switched one day and he suddenly sounded normal, which we were beginning to think would never happen) there's only me and my elderly mother to try and manage him. I feared something like this might happen to us-he's never been violent before but threatened a lot and damaged some property. When he's ok he's SO laid back and easy going but I don't know what he's capable of in that state (the professionals never seem to know either do they?) and he would get SO angry so I did fear the worst.

I couldn't imagine if we were forced to issue a statement like this man's parents and try and defend ourselves and what we'd done to try and help. We didn't get listened to, if no one will help there's nothing you can do with an adult man. They don't want them in hospital anymore. The professionals need to listen to family about someone's behaviour! I'm thankful 99% of people don't blame the parents, but the odd person does still say they should've stopped him. Literally what could they have done? Barricaded him in their home?

Whether he was completely rational or not, he clearly targeted women. This could be because of incel issues or it could simply be they were easy targets. As soon as I heard the initial reports, I thought incel frankly.

BBC news:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-68814395

Absolutely terrifying image and actions

He was definitely targeting women

Bondi Junction stabber's suspected motive is revealed https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13307677/Questions-raised-Bondi-Junction-killer-Joel-Cauchis-motive-police-claim-definitely-targeting-women.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

The police officer Amy Scott likely saved lives by sprinting to the scene

I just don't understand what motivates these killers to destroy the innocent lives of people just out shopping

Mental illness. Just like the UK, our support services for those with mental illness is pretty non-existent. I read his family paid privately for treatment but he reached an age where he could not be made to engage. It’s a really complicated area but there would have been several touch points from the sound of it where in an ideal world he should have been MADE to engage. But that takes away people’s rights, and also is a conveniently non-existent concept in a health area that has had the guts absolutely stripped out of it with funding. That’s what needs to be focused on here not some self-serving feminist bs. Yes, he was a coward avoiding men, likely no more than that, didn’t want to risk anyone who may fight back. A severely mentally ill coward.

Edited to add that his long standing mental illness was schizophrenia, and seemingly he had a long standing fascination with knives, guns and weapons in general so probably amazing he didn’t do something like this sooner really.

Self serving feminist bullshit? He's killed majority women and a seriously harmed a baby. He's attacked those physically weaker than him. He made a choice to do that. This has been an attack on women. Don't you dare tell me not to think that it is not.

I could also say to you, stop hijacking this thread for political purposes. Why are you on the feminist board anyway? Start your own thread and impart your so called wisdom there. .

Amy Scott is a very courageous officer who likely saved many lives.

I agree with you I’m not sure why anyone would call it that, seems odd.

Who was targeted ie women in particular is a line of investigation, just on the news

Quite.

There were thousands of post on X (check Syrian Girl)and reddit (I have screenshots of the scrubbed reddits) started by muslims claiming the murderer was a jew/isreali named Benjamin Cohen. Australia's channel 7 named Benjamin Cohen as a suspect. Jihadi attacks are common, jews running amok killing random people not so common. There was real world harm as a 20 year university student named ben Cohen was misidentified as the suspect.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/sydney-uni-student-trolled-for-being-bondi-junction-killer-in-a-terrible-case-of-mistaken-identity-20240414-p5fjoo.html
Political partisans who gleefully went to town with the stereotypical jewish name are being sued.
https://twitter.com/realMaalouf/status/1779644945457885682

Yes - why post this offensive crap on this thread? I wish these posters would just go and waste their time somewhere else. I guess now that the police have established that he WAS targeting women they will come up with an excuse for that too. FFS.

He was targetting women, even children, no matter his state of mind and I am glad a woman cop shot him down.

It's all coming out now in news articles - he was an incel, hated women.

Enough of the self serving bs attempts at silencing us from stating this fact.

I’m not trying to silence you. You are trying to silence me. You neck or not, would this have happened if he had of been receiving appropriate services/care for his uncontrolled mental illness? I don’t think it would but you do so we differ in opinion. You don’t own the internet. You can’t police who posts where. You don’t own forums.

I stand by the fact that with appropriate mental care this could have been prevented, and that’s where the focus should be on preventing such things in future.