The Ladies pond again

[IcakethereforeIam]

Trying to have a vote to make it women only again

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/22/transgender-women-ban-kenwood-ladies-pond-hampstead-heath/

https://archive.ph/xbIsK paywall dodge

I'm not holding my breath.

They can swim in a pond....the mixed one, nobody's stopping them. The same with toilets, use the mixed sex ones.

But it's okay for males who identify as having lady feefees to drive females away from the single sex women's pond.

Got it.

It's the quiet part said out loud. Again.

pp3p0 is hugely invested in not engaging, which makes it curious as to why they are here?
I strongly suspect a bloke with womanly feelz

but it is hugely enlightening to have the fact they have zero arguments spread out like this

Driving away suggests action and intent. Not just quietly going for a swim.

And 'man with lady feefees' is vile hate speech.

or a collection of them and alies

Mine have grown up now......and I now have a grandchild. You learn a lot, over the years. You learn the difference between utopian fantasy and reality, for a start.

are you new to a) womanhood or b) the internet?

because last time i looked i was able to be be concerned, to various (and varying depending on my mood/things that have just happened/where i am) things all at the same time. The issue of trans women trampling all over women's rights - something i have been interested in and fighting for, for a very long time. Several decades. More than several decades. (I am an ancient rights hoarding dinosaur, apparently)

In my lovely girls' school, our upper 4th common room debates had more understanding of nuance than what you are spouting. (incidentally: a career is more than doing this job or other for a couple of years or so)

I'm just a bored uterus haver. Lost my job last month. Waiting for the sex discrimination case against my employer to come to court. Not looking for another job as about to start IVF. Too much time on my hands.

There are three swimming ponds. Two which men can use and two which women can use. Those who are comfortable with, or who prefer mixed sex, can choose to swim in the mixed sex pool. Nobody is being driven away.

But using the pond that is for women only, when they can use the mixed sex one does show action and intent. They are deliberately choosing to be somewhere they know will cause an issue. I'm amazed you can't see that....or more likely you can but refuse to admit it.

I thought you said this thread wasn't about you?

But they are women.

But they just wanna swim!!!!

sex discrimination case? well you can wave good by to that one. once the brave new world of gender comes in

Men who truly identify with women would know not to use the women's pool - certainly when they have two other options.

and yet you have cruely not told us how they are women even though you know yourself

I was responding to someone else accusing me of lying about my biological sex.

TW are male. Men who identify as women - by definition, are not.

What a ridiculous me-rail this thread became.

It's already come in in Spain, where PP lives.
How is a sex discrimination case fought in a country where self ID is law?
Why not start a thread on that, PP82?

No they're not. They are men. No matter what they think the "Y" chromosome say's otherwise. FACT.

But they are women

Pathetic.

This has become all about you and it's really fucking boring.

We have gender self ID here and I can take my employer to court for sex discrimination too. Almost like they aren't mutually exclusive!

I would genuinely like to know more about this.

Because you can bring a case for sex discrimination, or for discrimination on the basis of gender identity. Depending on the circumstances.

Edited to add that if anyone wants to know more about this feel free to ask elsewhere and tag me and I'll try to answer, though I'm not terribly knowledgeable and just having to learn about all this recently. But I can share what I know, if anyone is sincere in saying they are genuinely interested.

As far as I'm aware though, it's just that sex and gender identity are different protected characteristics, as I believe is the case in the UK.