Get back in your box women, you're a right wing animal if you think men should be kept out of sport. "Why have rightwingers made even parkrun a battleground for trans people?"

[AlphariusOmegron]

Right wingers, meant as an insult, are to blame for ruining Park Run, not men in frocks.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/feb/14/why-have-rightwingers-made-even-parkrun-a-battleground-for-trans-people

Complain here:
https://www.theguardian.com/info/2014/sep/12/-sp-how-to-make-a-complaint-about-guardian-or-observer-content

Voices must be heard, even if this is an opinion piece. This mad ideology only continues whilst we allow it and not speaking up is a CHOICE to allow it to keep happening.

Look at this snippet from today's Guardian First Edition email. First sentence even more inflammatory than the original.

The irony is that right wingers have only belatedly taken up this issue.

Back in 2019, Sean Ingle was writing about it IN THE GUARDIAN https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2019/jul/22/current-impasse-transgender-athletes, so information was clearly available, but Jonathan Liew was telling women to stop being hysterical and specifically Martina Navratilova that she shouldn’t expect sport to be fair.

But 2019 was also the year of the notorious missing Penny Mordaunt Mumsnet web chat and for years the Tory party line was that ‘so called feminists’ could be ignored. Tories tend to lack interest in rights issues.

The difference now is that the Tories are exploiting an obvious open goal, and Parkrun apparently pay attention to right wing think tanks and their actions affect men. Before that it was just ‘Blah, blah, blah women’

Is it even legal to have a newspaper article with so many assertions that can't be backed up as fact? If it were in the Opinion section that would be one thing, but it's the Sports section.

It's alternative facts. Stopping TWs from recording their times as 'women'=banning them.

That is just blatantly wrong - Nobody has asked to ban anyone - just for fair categories.

Exactly. It really illustrates that this is a political movement that wants reality to be based around feelings (but only a special group of people's feelings, everyone else can either enable nicely or get to fuck) rather than facts.

The hyperbolic manipulation and misrepresentation to play on people's sentimentality is getting more teenaged by the day. It's verbal door slamming and flouncing with shouts of 'you've never loved me!' when you're left standing there muttering "I only said could you put your mug in the dishwasher".

😂

My boobs have never been big enough to accidentally do anything like this - except when I was breastfeeding, when they were like footballs, but I was too exhausted to even with the computer on in this halcyon days.

Quick reminder to anyone who has not sent a 30 second complaint - please do, here, every voice helps, and it needs to be here not twitter replies - https://www.theguardian.com/info/2014/sep/12/-sp-how-to-make-a-complaint-about-guardian-or-observer-content

Complaint sent. Thanks for highlighting.

I've complained, and finally cancelled my subscription, the article is absurd as well as offensive. Right wing my arse.

@GrammarTeacher

ParkRun is now back to its roots. The records don't matter. You should only be competing against yourself. ParkRun is a run for everyone

Completely agree, well said

I'm still laughing at the description of Policy Exchange as "mysterious".

What's mysterious about them? He makes it sound as if they are some sinister organisation backed by foreign actors set on undermining the British state. As opposed to a bog-standard think tank who have published an entirely reasonable, well-researched report on women's participation in sport, with endorsement from Martina Navratilova, Daley Thompson and Sharron Davies.

Who's going to tell Daley he's a gullible idiot being exploited by this sinister right-wing organisation? Surely Jonathan Liew would be the ideal person to do it. I would love to see how that conversation goes.

What’s mysterious is how we got the place where someone who writes like this is encouraged to

Thankyou

...from a parent of a teen recovering from a 2am meltdown...where asking them to be quieter led to door slamming and the whole block being woken up.

Please can you be quiet so you don't wake other people up.(please can you compete with your sex do you don't hurt female competitors/expose your penis in the changing rooms/stop females competing fairly)

leads to door slamming and shouting and more waking people up, (claims that they are being literally killed , death and rape threats and officials getting punched)

Very teen behaviour, and entitled abusive male behaviour rolled into one. (I used to live with one of those too)

Daily Mail on the exchanges between JKR and Jonathan.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13086339/jk-rowling-parkrun-row-Jonathan-Liew-transgender-athletes.html

I was wondering when Silly Billy would pipe up.

We've all been there,I accidentally ordered a litre of damson gin.

I've finally cancelled my subscription too, and I wrote to tell them why. Have been wresting with this for a while, but being actively insulted in the name of make-believe by a newspaper to which I voluntarily gave money was just a step too far.

Any recommendations for a newspaper where left-wing women aren't derided? Can't give money to Murdoch so the Times is out, despite its good work on this topic.

I love this. Totally nails it.

The main misogyny at the Grun lies in the fact they are commissioning these articles written by men instead of the articles on other subjects written by women.

Every time a man gets paid for something like this, that's money that a female journalist didn't get for coverage on something more pertinent/interesting. That's a recent clip he can use to get NUJ membership that a woman couldn't have.

It becomes a self-referential echo chamber due to selection bias. And I bet the biased selectors (editors) don't like hearing it and just bat away criticism, that's what the Beeb always do, too.

There are two reasons why I love JKR. (Actually, there are LOADS of reasons I love JKR, but let's just stick with two.)

One is that whenever she intervenes on issues like this, she always demonstrates that she is much cleverer and funnier than the hapless male idiot she's arguing with. You almost feel sorry for them, because it's not a fair fight - but then Jonathan Liew doesn't believe in fair fights, so sympathy is limited.

The other is that her comments always get picked up by the press. If she hadn't said anything, this would have been a massive Twitter spat, and nothing more. But as soon as she said something, you knew it would be reported in the Mail, Telegraph etc. I assume this is because JKR makes good copy, and people will always click on a story that has JKR in it. Probably does wonders for the publication's SEO too.

Neil McCormick (music writer) waded in to support JL. He too has now protected his tweets 🙄

But the mystifying thing is that it isn’t a complete echo chamber. As I have pointed out Sean Ingle has been writing well researched, fair articles in the Guardian for years.

On the other hand Liew’s article doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny.

You don’t have to have any opinion on Policy Exchange to see that this is low hanging fruit. It’s obviously unfair, and while Liew is on record saying that’s fine, the law and funders might feel differently.
it’s a bit like antisemitism in the Labour Party. The Daily Mail are politically motivated to make hay out of the recent mess in Rochdale, but that doesn’t mean it’s right wing to say Labour messed up.

Good that JKR homed in on that earlier piece by Liew, where he imagined the serried ranks of trans podium winners stretching out forever... 🙄He really is a piece of work.

To be fair, even the Mail calls Policy Exchange 'right-wing'. Doesn't make everything they say a lie, though.