Feeling really low after being honest

[Notfeelingitwasworthit]

Training today. Gender identity. I was dreading it. Just keep your head down, I thought, don't say anything.
Then the subject of safe spaces came up and the presenter (they/them) said well it's actually not a problem at all, there are no statistics which show that sexual offences occur on hospital wards or in domestic abuse shelters and the other women are also really cool with it so it's not a problem at all!
I just said that this wasn't really accurate, we know women don't report sexual assaults or inappropriate behaviour, especially not if they think they're going to be labelled as transphobic, and women are constantly told to put up and shut up, so that labelled with the fear of being labelled a bigot OF COURSE won't mean they answer truthfully.
Obviously I was set upon. I tried to stand my ground but people kept going. Not just to my face but with snide comments throughout the rest of the day. I would join a room, everyone would stop talking. Even my closest contacts said 'well maybe you just shouldn't say it' and 'they do have a point'.

It just feels so lonely. It feels like you have a choice between being true to what you believe and having friends. Two of my closet friends would disown me if they knew.
Do I have to lie forever?

Here’s an example of why we’re always focused on male to female transitioning. If this club was female only and refused to admit trans women, it’s management would be subjected to violent threats. Men just cannot stand being told ‘no’ whereas women put up with it / are conditioned to it all the time.

Would love to know if any TM were members but I doubt it.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/13/the-garrick-expels-colin-brough-tensions-over-men-only-stance

Would be interesting to know if The Garrick admits transmen

@Minglingpringle
I agree that you have bitten off more than you can chew and that is not a good feeling. I disagree that it is because the majority of posters disagree with you or that you don't have time to do it justice.
IMO, you have very little understanding or knowledge of the subject and the majority of women responding to your arguments and assertions have been very much on top of this for years.
I can only suggest that you take some time to look at a couple of websites. Sex Matters, Safe Schools Alliance for example. Read Helen Joyce's book "Trans". Or watch some of her interviews on You Tube. All very accessible.

Hannah Barnes' book " Time to Think" lays out the whole story of the Tavistock Clinic if you want to get up to speed on that.

Yes. And if you're still reading (though perhaps not posting), @Minglingpringle, you might consider this: coming across so many who disagree with you could suggest to you the possibility you are mistaken.

Some - many children - think all opinions stand on equal footing, and on that basis are loath to change their minds. That's silly - childish - albeit usually the thought is based (fallaciously) on the correct (and laudable) principle that everyone is entitled to her or his own opinion.

As for 'cis': in the way you used it @Minglingpringle, and the way you explained it, 'ciswomen' only makes sense if transwomen are women. But they're not. So it doesn't. (Same goes for 'cis women' and trans women.)

Think about it. Do you see?

Predictably, our self-appointed monitors are posting screenshots of the OP on Twitter. I haven’t seen a single link to the thread yet, possibly because it might complicate their narrative somewhat.

2014 was a decade ago.

The idea that a woman was anyone who says they are one was not mainstream in 2014.

@Minglingpringle
Welcome to the thread. I came across this section of Mums Net maybe a week ago and I have learned so much. I've also done a lot of my own research and reading in this time and am now consumed by this subject. I knew so little and although I knew I supported JKRs view, I couldn't have articulated it. This thread and others like it, if you allow it, will open your eyes in a big way. The conversation is articulate and considered and based on facts. This is a serious issue, and the contributors here have taken the time to understand and explain the GC position with care and passion. Personally I'm so grateful, and I hope you get a much out of it as I (and my husband by proxy) as I have. Welcome aboard.