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Meet the new CEO of Endometriosis South Coast

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Maaate · 12/11/2023 20:52

I don't know why I'm surprised really

Meet the new CEO of Endometriosis South Coast
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WarriorN · 15/11/2023 16:43

"When you appoint a CEO, you do that because of a skillset." Says richards.

Does that skill set include punching the screen of mumsnet?

Which has a lot of "terfs"?

The word punch and terf is far to readily used

CriticalCondition · 15/11/2023 16:46

I've read quite a lot today of what Steph has written about themselves.

It is absolutely teeming with references to clothes, shoes, make-up, hair, jewellery.

Concern about women's health - not so much.

MotherEarthisaTerf · 15/11/2023 16:52

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2023 16:24

Let me put it this way.

On national radio, it was argued that endo wasn't a gynaecological disease, you didn't need to have been born with a womb to have endo and to think about men with the disease. It was argued that we should be inclusive and the word woman wasn't relevant. It was stated that framing endo as a woman's disease was the problem and if that wasn't the case, it'd get taken more seriously. Barnett bluntly asked if endo just needed a rebranding as a men's health problem too, to be taken seriously and they pretty much said yes.

I think if my hopes for improving my healthcare rested on the efforts of these two to increase awareness, I'd be very much crying myself to sleep tonight.

BINGO

MotherEarthisaTerf · 15/11/2023 16:59

There are plenty of ways that Jodie and Steph could have run that interview today.

But it became obvious that their focus is not listening to women's opinions. I've seen that before in the patriarchal medical system, as I'm sure every woman with endo has.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 15/11/2023 17:09

Just a reminder of one of Steph's contributions to women's rights and feminism - this is the protest they organised outside the international FILIA conference trying to stop women speaking about VAWG, women's health, feminism and lots more:
https://unherd.com/thepost/the-misogyny-of-trans-activists/

The misogyny of trans activists

To the annual FiLiA conference in Portsmouth. A 1,000-strong gathering of women of all ages and viewpoints, united by a desire and commitment to ending male violence, oppression and domination of women and girls. [...]Read More...

https://unherd.com/thepost/the-misogyny-of-trans-activists

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2023 17:10

Going to redact some of this cos I think it will fall foul of the MN censorship but I think it's really important and worth posting (personally I think the whole thread is fine and valid, but I don't want to risk it)

Dennis Noel Kavanagh at jebadoo2
1/ 15 years ago Steph could have been appointed CEO of an endometrioses charity and nothing would have happened. That was pre gender wars. Before the cancellations. Before we knew what [redacted] and before we understood their relationship with pain and oppression.

2/ Now we know. Boy, do we know. [redacted] We’ve seen their tictok videos where they implausibly claim periods and period pains. We know the elation of boundary breaking. We know about validation by forced, “be kind” subterfuges

3/ We know that [redacted] craves and values
oppression, and this can even be the medical oppression of endometriosis and casting himself as saviour figure. It can be the validation of doing womanly things like running women’s charities. Once you see this you can’t unsee it.

4/ It’s that rather simple and envious relationship with pain that is not his that transforms the selfless act of charity into the selfish act of validation or elation as passing as one of the girls. We understand this know because [redacted] themselves have told us this.

5/ That, I’m afraid, makes the vast majority of women looking at this uncomfortable and quite a few men such as myself similarly so. This rank entitlement to wade into female spaces or all kind for public gratification is now all too familiar and all too uncomfortable

6/ This is why we are hundreds or years away psychologically from a mere 15 years ago. The trans movement has been loud and clear about what [redacted] is. Gender is never less than obvious and our only crime is listening to our opponents.

7/ As I commented before, I’ve seen this somewhat with [redacted] claiming ownership of AIDS leadership in the past and HiV charities now bizarrely fixated on the trans issue. Like what women face, it’s appropriation and leadership of pain discourses.

8/ Though unlike women, I’m less likely to be told be kind or just rely on my socialisation not to make a fuss. Point is it’s the same impulse. It’s the reconfiguration of charity to self gratification and it makes the hairs on the back of our necks stand up.

Let me stress the following:

We have the Green party which doesn't talk about green issues as its core driving focus
We have Stonewall which doesn't talk about lesbians being harassed to 'do dick'
We have autism charities which don't talk about autism
We have the NHS which doesn't want to talk about women and safeguarding women (despite the number of sexual offences carried out, primarily against women by male patients)
We have women's health charity which erase the word woman and instead say they have to be inclusive despite the condition only affecting females
We have Facebook which bans women from women's support groups (or Facebook entirely) for things objecting to males policing their language.
We have rape charities which say women who object to the presence of males shouldnt be given access to services and should reframe their trauma.

I could go on with the list of Trojans who claim they are supporting one cause but their focus is actually to control women, silence them and use that organisation as a vehicle for trans activism which is against the interests of women/ other minority groups because of the conflict of interest.

This isn't about an endo charity. This is about a whole movement of Trojan horses using charities, political parties and critical institutions for a completely different purpose and agenda which detracts from what SHOULD be their primary purpose.

It's about conflict of interest and personal gain of individuals over a group which has less power and often in an effort to further lessen that power.

This is a men's rights movement.
It's a movement of the narcissistic personality.

It is not a force 'to improve the world for everyone'.

CheeseChamp · 15/11/2023 17:16

Interesting, Steph runs the baby2k shops in the Portsmouth and Southampton area. Car seat fitting specialist and prams and the like. Think they have about 7 show rooms. Looks like Steph ran the company with a sibling and sister in law.

Interesting only in that, their area of expertise is running retail stores. They probably got involved in women stuff through selling these products. They are probably very well known in the area to mothers. Steph may have good reach to be ceo of a charity in this area, I guess. Shame they are a TRA and have to make everything they do about being trans and being bigoted and offensive towards women.

TinselAngel · 15/11/2023 17:17

MrsOvertonsWindow · 15/11/2023 17:09

Just a reminder of one of Steph's contributions to women's rights and feminism - this is the protest they organised outside the international FILIA conference trying to stop women speaking about VAWG, women's health, feminism and lots more:
https://unherd.com/thepost/the-misogyny-of-trans-activists/

Lest we forget, Steph also minced around outside FILIA giving out leaflets with pictures of himself on.

lifeturnsonadime · 15/11/2023 17:20

@RedToothBrush

That's horrifying reading.

CriticalCondition · 15/11/2023 17:30

Steph was a hairdresser with no relevant qualifications who hosted private gatherings in their flat for married men who wanted to dress up as schoolgirls. It's on their website.

Despite more recent retail experience, not the first person I'd look to lead a campaign for an improvement in women's healthcare.

WarriorN · 15/11/2023 17:45

Gosh hugely, and by someone else

Helleofabore · 15/11/2023 17:46

I must admit when I was listening to the interview this morning the disconnected thinking of Jody. On one hand Jody totally understood that women’s health issues were not well researched and funded. Then Jody tried to detach this health issue from the female body, and removed it from the female reproductive organs.

So, feminist apparently. And Richards was all for it. How fucked is that. How very misogynistic.

ZeldaFighter · 15/11/2023 17:47

How can Steph fight for women's health when Steph thinks being a woman is "assigned at birth"? It isn't. It's recorded at birth. Sex is assigned in utero.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/11/2023 17:49

This is a tiny little charity. Latest accounts show:
Income: £8398 from a dozen or more sources
Expenditure: £6380, with the biggest items merchendise [sic] and a skydiving fundraiser.
https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/5148760/accounts-and-annual-returns
The year before there was less than half this, and that looks like the year it was set up. There are no assets other than the cash in the bank. There are no salary payments. It appears to have been set up as a way of raising awareness. Jodie clearly has no medical background and is a classic activist who cares deeply about something that affects her and wants to do something about it. Very laudable, but why not get involved with Endometriosis UK, which is a large established charity?

Unless Steph brings in some big grants or donations it's hard to see how Steph could be paid for whatever the CEO work turns out to be. CEO is a grandiose term for what is likely to be involved.

It still seems like a very odd decision to appoint Steph as 'CEO'. Surely organisations are entitled to decline to appoint a candidate on the grounds that their social media and other activities would bring the organisation into disrepute and show very questionable judgement? Plenty of evidence on this thread that Steph has at best turned a blind eye to outright threats to women and also that Steph has used aggressive and misogynist language on the record.

I thought Emma did a very good job with that interview. Jodie was extremely ill advised to go on WH as she was not up to that level of debate. Same goes for Steph, but for all the reasons outlined on this thread Steph was probably absolutely thrilled to be there.

ENDOMETRIOSIS SOUTH COAST - Charity 1186203

Charity details for ENDOMETRIOSIS SOUTH COAST - Charity 1186203

https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-search/-/charity-details/5148760/accounts-and-annual-returns

Waitwhat23 · 15/11/2023 17:51

So by his own admission, his relevant experience for this post amounts to

'Richards said her experience included founding a TransLucent, which 'became LGBT organisation of the year and I did that in 27 months'. She also won the Inspirational Women of Portsmouth Awards 2023 in the 'Inspirational Elder' category.'

I mean, fucking hell. Is that it?

EmpressaurusOfCats · 15/11/2023 17:53

Well, it’s definitely not true that there’s no such thing as bad publicity.

Froodwithatowel · 15/11/2023 17:59

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2023 17:10

Going to redact some of this cos I think it will fall foul of the MN censorship but I think it's really important and worth posting (personally I think the whole thread is fine and valid, but I don't want to risk it)

Dennis Noel Kavanagh at jebadoo2
1/ 15 years ago Steph could have been appointed CEO of an endometrioses charity and nothing would have happened. That was pre gender wars. Before the cancellations. Before we knew what [redacted] and before we understood their relationship with pain and oppression.

2/ Now we know. Boy, do we know. [redacted] We’ve seen their tictok videos where they implausibly claim periods and period pains. We know the elation of boundary breaking. We know about validation by forced, “be kind” subterfuges

3/ We know that [redacted] craves and values
oppression, and this can even be the medical oppression of endometriosis and casting himself as saviour figure. It can be the validation of doing womanly things like running women’s charities. Once you see this you can’t unsee it.

4/ It’s that rather simple and envious relationship with pain that is not his that transforms the selfless act of charity into the selfish act of validation or elation as passing as one of the girls. We understand this know because [redacted] themselves have told us this.

5/ That, I’m afraid, makes the vast majority of women looking at this uncomfortable and quite a few men such as myself similarly so. This rank entitlement to wade into female spaces or all kind for public gratification is now all too familiar and all too uncomfortable

6/ This is why we are hundreds or years away psychologically from a mere 15 years ago. The trans movement has been loud and clear about what [redacted] is. Gender is never less than obvious and our only crime is listening to our opponents.

7/ As I commented before, I’ve seen this somewhat with [redacted] claiming ownership of AIDS leadership in the past and HiV charities now bizarrely fixated on the trans issue. Like what women face, it’s appropriation and leadership of pain discourses.

8/ Though unlike women, I’m less likely to be told be kind or just rely on my socialisation not to make a fuss. Point is it’s the same impulse. It’s the reconfiguration of charity to self gratification and it makes the hairs on the back of our necks stand up.

Let me stress the following:

We have the Green party which doesn't talk about green issues as its core driving focus
We have Stonewall which doesn't talk about lesbians being harassed to 'do dick'
We have autism charities which don't talk about autism
We have the NHS which doesn't want to talk about women and safeguarding women (despite the number of sexual offences carried out, primarily against women by male patients)
We have women's health charity which erase the word woman and instead say they have to be inclusive despite the condition only affecting females
We have Facebook which bans women from women's support groups (or Facebook entirely) for things objecting to males policing their language.
We have rape charities which say women who object to the presence of males shouldnt be given access to services and should reframe their trauma.

I could go on with the list of Trojans who claim they are supporting one cause but their focus is actually to control women, silence them and use that organisation as a vehicle for trans activism which is against the interests of women/ other minority groups because of the conflict of interest.

This isn't about an endo charity. This is about a whole movement of Trojan horses using charities, political parties and critical institutions for a completely different purpose and agenda which detracts from what SHOULD be their primary purpose.

It's about conflict of interest and personal gain of individuals over a group which has less power and often in an effort to further lessen that power.

This is a men's rights movement.
It's a movement of the narcissistic personality.

It is not a force 'to improve the world for everyone'.

Excellent post. Relevant to a whole number of threads at the top of FWR at the moment.

That twitter run is the key to pretty much all of it.

nepeta · 15/11/2023 18:01

Two days ago I read on the website for some time. It was very much focused on those who don't 'identify' as women, and it was very openly against the very idea that being female has anything to do with who might have this condition.

So yes, it is a site built by a trans activist who is perhaps also an endometriosis sufferer. But the erasure of women and the emphasis on a group which might be 0.4% of all the sufferers is something that needs a clear explanation. It's bonkers world.

SamW98 · 15/11/2023 18:11

I actually believe Jodie has good intentions but she’s totally out of her depth. She’s caught up in a furore now that she was either too naive or shortsighted to see coming.

I actually thought she was going to cry during the interview today as the reality hit her that this isn’t how this was supposed to go.

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2023 18:13

SamW98 · 15/11/2023 18:11

I actually believe Jodie has good intentions but she’s totally out of her depth. She’s caught up in a furore now that she was either too naive or shortsighted to see coming.

I actually thought she was going to cry during the interview today as the reality hit her that this isn’t how this was supposed to go.

Susie Green vibes...

CriticalCondition · 15/11/2023 18:15

This is about a whole movement of Trojan horses using charities, political parties and critical institutions for a completely different purpose and agenda which detracts from what SHOULD be their primary purpose.

This is what Helen Joyce was saying on an interview I listened to the other day. That it not only detracts from the purpose of the charity or institution it completely subverts it.

So organisations which are purportedly concerned with the safeguarding of children or women actually become a danger to them because they don't recognise sex. Girl Guiding, prisons, rape crisis centres - the list goes on.

It was a lightbulb moment for me.

SirVixofVixHall · 15/11/2023 18:18

CriticalCondition · 15/11/2023 18:15

This is about a whole movement of Trojan horses using charities, political parties and critical institutions for a completely different purpose and agenda which detracts from what SHOULD be their primary purpose.

This is what Helen Joyce was saying on an interview I listened to the other day. That it not only detracts from the purpose of the charity or institution it completely subverts it.

So organisations which are purportedly concerned with the safeguarding of children or women actually become a danger to them because they don't recognise sex. Girl Guiding, prisons, rape crisis centres - the list goes on.

It was a lightbulb moment for me.

Agree, so astute.

SunsetBeauregarde · 15/11/2023 18:20

Signalbox · 15/11/2023 16:31

if she can get endo classed as a disability for the purposes of employment law so we have the same protections as other debilitating conditions I'll be thrilled.

Endometriosis is already considered to fall under the Equality Act PC of disability if it is debilitating in nature.

Edited

Unfortunately, my employer disagrees - many, many conversations later I now have reasonable adjustments but it was such a fight. There’s a perception that endo is just ‘bad periods’ which is maddening - I bled through a maternity pad inside a pair incontinence pants, worn inside a pair of period pants and ruined an office chair in a HR meeting where we were (ironically) discussing how they need me to give notice if I’m going to be off sick (whole other story!). That was sure say I think they actually started listening to me.

What I would have loved is support from an endo charity, who could have come in an educated HR for me and helped me advocate for myself.

I don’t know this woman, neither do any of you I imagine, but I personally would rather give her time in the role to demonstrate her value before writing her off. It’s a tiny local charity, and if her appointment to the role starts a conversation about endo I’m all for it.

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