Meet the new CEO of Endometriosis South Coast

[Maaate]

I don't know why I'm surprised really

There is absolutely no chance Steph will talk about women’s healthcare because Steph doesn’t believe biological women are any different to men who put on dresses

Steph actively campaigns against women having anything for themselves

Steph isn’t a friend of women at all, Steph is only interested in Steph self and trans issues

being trans doesnt automatically make her bad at this job just like being a woman wouldnt make her automatically good at the job, either.

But him being a well documented misogynist does make him likely to be bad at it.

If they’re a misogynist, they masked it very well in the interview.

Lol.

@SunsetBeauregarde What is it about Steph's qualifications that leads you to believe he can do any of those things?

Like I say, if she can make a difference to people like me who had to battle for diagnosis and treatment, or if she can get endo classed as a disability for the purposes of employment law so we have the same protections as other debilitating conditions I'll be thrilled. Even if she can just get conversations started about how piss poor womens health is in this country it's a bloody miracle.

Given that Steph used Steph's platform on Woman's Hour to highlight that 20 or so men have been diagnosed with a form of this condition, I wouldn't get your hopes up.

But this person isn't interested in women's health though.

They are interested in transactivism and inclusive language around endo.

And that's as far as their interest goes - it's about controlling how you talk about endo and the terms you are allowed to use.

Not a dicky bird about how women aren't taken seriously or listened to.

The fact that this person dismisses concerns about a conflict of interest and being more interested in transactivism (and this just being a vehicle for that rather than about endo), demonstrates an inability to listen.

If they don't want to frame it as a woman's condition and only want to frame it as a person's condition, how can you tackle how women's experience of pain isn't taken as seriously as men's?

They don't understand how women get intimidated by men/authority. They don't understand self exclusion. Or barriers to women speaking and being taken seriously.

This is just good for their CV.

I'd fully support a charity dedicated to transmen who suffer from this extremely painful condition.

Not even a mention of them from Richards in that interview or elsewhere.

From what I can see re Richard's attitude to women - I wouldn't trust Richards to tell me the time accurately, let alone represent women on a serious health matter.

Richards advocates for Richards, and men. Certainly not transwomen.

What is it that leads you to believe she can't?

''inclusive'' language being bullshit. As it isn't; it excludes women with a range of needs for plain, straight forward language about their bodies and health care.

In order to stroke the desires of a very questionable political lobby. The 29 men are being as much used in this as women are.

Steph cannot easily use the word woman.

Steph's ease at saying "men" will win research grants for the 29 men reducing the pot for studying women with the disease since steph can't name them..

Steph can't get any conversation started around women's health since she can't use the word.

And from Steph's perspective, women's health needs to be taken from everyone else's perspective to be taken seriously.

Nothing you want will come out of steph's appointment.

So why are you advocating for Steph? How do you see Steph contributing to your life?

No. However, blocking women who don't agree with them or believe that Richards is a woman, organising protests at women's conferences to drown out women's voices discussing women's health and safety issues, and a slew of other very clear examples of this male person's behaviour makes my 'suspect' pretty fucking certain.

I do understand your point. However, you either don't know this individual or you are fine with a male who is the very depiction of 'misogynist' running this charity.

Let me put it this way.

On national radio, it was argued that endo wasn't a gynaecological disease, you didn't need to have been born with a womb to have endo and to think about men with the disease. It was argued that we should be inclusive and the word woman wasn't relevant. It was stated that framing endo as a woman's disease was the problem and if that wasn't the case, it'd get taken more seriously. Barnett bluntly asked if endo just needed a rebranding as a men's health problem too, to be taken seriously and they pretty much said yes.

I think if my hopes for improving my healthcare rested on the efforts of these two to increase awareness, I'd be very much crying myself to sleep tonight.

The nasty, misogynistic blog he wrote about me for daring to stand up for women like his ex, for a start.

'think endo first'

I think Steph has a 'think Steph first' strategy.

Well for a start, his performance on WH. He is not a good speaker and cannot put together a cohesive argument. A CEO needs to be able to hold his own with partners, stakeholders and the media (if they want to charity to have a high profile). He must have known he'd be questioned about his appointment, but was either unprepared to give succinct and convincing arguments why his expertise trumped the critics' misgivings, or was simply too arrogant to believe this was anything other than a puff piece to praise him for his appointment. He was unable to handle a challenging interview, but not one that involved particularly difficult, scientific questions, just basic general knowledge about endo and its sufferers. He resorted to aggression towards the interviewer and accusations of phobia. That's not a good start, is it?

Perhaps the fact that Richards has no relevant experience in any area, and appears to hate women. Try reading the thread.
Great user name by the way.

@SunsetBeauregarde

Let's turn this around, given his track record what makes you think he will?

He's been awful to women in the past, see @TinselAngel above why do you think this will change?

How can you have any confidence when he refuses to acknowledge women as a sex class to the point of protesting about us being one?

Well quite. So from the doc above posted by pp, it is one in ten WOMEN, not one in ten people. As it is a female disease , if those ten “people” were male, it would be none in ten.
Pretty important to know the sex of the “people”.
Please make this idiocy stop !

if she can get endo classed as a disability for the purposes of employment law so we have the same protections as other debilitating conditions I'll be thrilled.

Endometriosis is already considered to fall under the Equality Act PC of disability if it is debilitating in nature.

A comment I saw on twitter was that endo doesn't discriminate.

Except I'm kinda thinking it must be doing something if we've millions of biologically born females with it and apparently 29 blokes.

That's what makes the 'inclusion' crap offensive.

We have to include 29 blokes and 5500 women who think they are men in this debate to make it inclusive.

Meanwhile all those women? Yeah whatevs. They should suck up inclusive language because it'll definitely help medicine deal with the mechanics of female bodies better and attitudes to listening to women better and is a vast improvement in bedside manner to those women by saying 'we know there's millions of you, but the language we use should be geared up to the men and the women who think they are men'.

Can't see sex. Can't see sexism.

He'll be as much use as a bag of wet mice.

Quite. No fight needed, the legislation already exists.

I worked in a university for many years. I have with my own eyes seen that having a 2.1 or even a First and proceeding to postgraduate study does not guarantee that an individual is clever.

I saw the 1 in ten people stat.

I had a conversation earlier about this with DH. We were trying to figure out if that actually meant it was one in five women, because that would be accurate if or was one in ten people. Or if actually it's one in ten women, which means statistically on a population level 1 in 20 people suffer from it.

It kinda matters to awareness and understanding.

If you are writing a PhD on endo, as a basic requirement, I'd hope you understood stats.

However 'Nancy Keeley' had issues in this department too and opened my eyes to the poor standards in academia on this.

Daily Mail:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12753263/Is-word-looking-woman-Womans-Hour-presenter-Emma-Barnett-clashes-transgender-CEO-endometriosis-charity-not-using-word-woman-new-role-29-men-suffer-disease.html

"Excruciating" is used several times and not in relation to the condition.