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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Meet the new CEO of Endometriosis South Coast

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Maaate · 12/11/2023 20:52

I don't know why I'm surprised really

Meet the new CEO of Endometriosis South Coast
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Ameanstreakamilewide · 15/11/2023 14:58

If there's a subject that's not about trans.
They'll make it a subject where it's ✨trans✨.

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2023 14:59

WarriorN · 15/11/2023 14:20

Oh this is a new one on me

You are the CEO of a UK woman's charity.

Where would be the single best place place to discuss endo and engage with women with endo and how it affects their life?

If you are saying you want to punch the screen when the word mumsnet comes up, are you really going to put that to one side and engage with women on MN?

If you aren't prepared to do that - and deal with women who think you are a man - then really are you the best appointment for a charity with a focus on a women's gynaecological health? This matters because this is about reach and engagement for a charity thats all about improving awareness.

There are also concerns over your temper and how you talk about violence in this manner so flippantly. It is NOT ok to say stuff like this.

Keep in mind the interview talked about how all the service users are supportive of the appointment. Yet this is a person who says things like this and is known to have a history of being actively involved in the harassment, intimidation and vilification of women who speak out. If they are a service user who is also on MN and are GC do you really think they are going to go "hmmmm y'know actually I have a real issue with this'? Keeping in mind the charity might well have your personal contact details such as address and phone number.

One of the criticism here is about conflicts of interest and transactivism working to silence women who say and do things they don't like (see the reaction to Emma Barnett saying its a gynaecological issue - and the reply that its not and this classification is the reason the condition isn't taken seriously - and the bullshit of what about the menz...). And one of the arguments that women are countering with regards to TRA is the use of harassment and intimidation which is also leading to unrecordable self exclusion.

Its ultimately incredibly frustrating that a man gets the gig to talk to women's hour about why its ok to be CEO despite their work to silence and intimidate women, yet the women who have been deplatformed by this same silencing and intimidation still don't get the gig.

And we end up talking about identity and the only information we get from awareness campaigners for endo in this interview is that men get it too, its not a gynaecological issue and Emma Barnett isn't giving enough airtime to awareness of endo and is 'pushing the point' on there being a conflict of interest in a TRA trying to remove words like woman and is quite literally being dismissive of the point that you need a womb for endo!

These people are grifters who don't have a fucking clue what they are talking about and are actively spreading misleading information or dangerously inaccurate inform in the name of spreading awareness. They are more concerned about inclusivity that saying its absoluetely appalling that gynaecological issues are a cinderalla issue -precisely because 'woman', 'sex', 'lack of automy', 'control by men' etc etc.

Honest to god, as glorious as the take down was why on earth are we not getting gritty interviews with others with 'controversial' opinions such as 'transwomen are men' - in the name of being inclusive of all views? I do wonder how these women would do under a grilling like that from Barnett (or someone else). My suspicion is the risk of the interviewer not the host looking somewhat stupid...

IcakethereforeIam · 15/11/2023 15:06

TransLucent, isn't that the conference that the Chiefitty Chief Police bod is going to speak at?

TinselAngel · 15/11/2023 15:09

I can't remember if I posted the nasty blog he wrote about me on here or not:

web.archive.org/web/20231112211138/translucent.org.uk/letter-to-trans-widows/

LarkLane · 15/11/2023 15:18

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/11/2023 14:48

Transluscent is a CIC not a charity - Different rules to a charity :)

It looks very recent as well

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/14437177

seems Steph hasn’t been keeping up to date with the filing!

If I click on People in your link and then Steph Richards. I get links to one dissolved, and several active, companies
Is that the same person? Baby2K? Kidex?
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/LKSTIl-wS7mp43xxZL-BkIf-jMk/appointments

Steph RICHARDS personal appointments - Find and update company information - GOV.UK

Free company information from Companies House including registered office address, filing history, accounts, annual return, officers, charges, business activity

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/LKSTIl-wS7mp43xxZL-BkIf-jMk/appointments

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/11/2023 15:18

"Put my fist through the TV screen" is a very male thing to say, isn't it? I might say I felt like kicking the screen or throwing the cat at it but wouldn't be thinking fists.

Anyway, Steph's vanity led she/her to trumpet triumphantly about the forthcoming appearance on WH. Steph leaped aboard and was hoisted by she/her own petard for all to see, as the sunlight shone sunnily down.

Another victory for Operation Let Them Speak.

Waitwhat23 · 15/11/2023 15:21

TinselAngel · 15/11/2023 15:09

I can't remember if I posted the nasty blog he wrote about me on here or not:

web.archive.org/web/20231112211138/translucent.org.uk/letter-to-trans-widows/

God, he's a nasty, spiteful little man.

LarkLane · 15/11/2023 15:23

@TinselAngel That's a piece of extreme unpleasantness.
(Plus I'm getting a pop up on it inviting me to that conference)

TinselAngel · 15/11/2023 15:25

LarkLane · 15/11/2023 15:23

@TinselAngel That's a piece of extreme unpleasantness.
(Plus I'm getting a pop up on it inviting me to that conference)

Are you going to go?

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 15/11/2023 15:26

SamW98 · 15/11/2023 12:15

Well she’s got backing from Freda so I’m sure she’s delighted

I see the Brains Trust met again. Brew
"You did good"?

The word good is an adjective: it modifies a noun. To modify a verb, one needs an adverb, e.g. well or badly.

I wouldn't mind so much, but these activists are so insistent that they are expert at English grammar...

LarkLane · 15/11/2023 15:28

TinselAngel · 15/11/2023 15:25

Are you going to go?

I've got to go and buy cat litter that day according to my p.a. So I'll reluctantly have to give it a swerve due to a diary clash.

TinselAngel · 15/11/2023 15:39

Me too and I've not even got a cat.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 15/11/2023 15:41

LarkLane · 15/11/2023 15:18

If I click on People in your link and then Steph Richards. I get links to one dissolved, and several active, companies
Is that the same person? Baby2K? Kidex?
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/LKSTIl-wS7mp43xxZL-BkIf-jMk/appointments

Definitely the same person.

RedToothBrush · 15/11/2023 15:43

Bloodeehell · 15/11/2023 14:27

Listened to the interview, well done Emma!

Jodie comes across as vulnerable and suffering from mental health on top of the physical issues…

Obviously pro inclusivity to the far end of the scale. Knows Steph through this and asked a favour as she knows Steph is CEO of another charity.

She’s ill, she’s a single Mum, she’s a student. Fair enough, she needs help. But she and the trustees have a responsibility to appoint someone who is going to advocate for the women seeking the service, put their needs first and make sure that charitable donations received are spent responsibly on the core aims of the charity.

There is a direct conflict of interest with Steph as already CEO of a trans charity and a trans activist.

Which means that even when asked about the millions of women suffering, Steph’s number one priority was the few thousand trans men, non binary and men with the condition. Not women.

Ergo Steph is not able to carry out the role.

As for Jodie’s proclamations about endometriosis not being a gynaecological disorder. There is recent research on it being inflammatory and systemic and the aetiology is not defined. But it isn’t up to Jodie to redefine the whole condition, based on a handful of papers, without consensus from the medical community. She appears to have done this both on WH and on the charity website.

What got me was she went on about all the women who were involved in the charity and how important they were, and then she ignored all of them and appointed a man out of the blue to be CEO.

It's almost like all of the women weren't good enough for some reason or were too busy to run the charity. And then decided a man was better for the job than them.

And we are getting this lecture on feminism on WH....

TinselAngel · 15/11/2023 15:48

I wouldn't have thought a CEO was responsible for general admin usually, as was claimed in the interview.

Helleofabore · 15/11/2023 15:53

WarriorN · 15/11/2023 14:20

Oh this is a new one on me

Was it that Steph that flounced from Mumsnet? Did we ever establish if it was the poster with a close username?

TinselAngel · 15/11/2023 15:54

Steph did used to grace us with his presence IIRC.

SabrinaThwaite · 15/11/2023 15:58

TinselAngel · 15/11/2023 15:48

I wouldn't have thought a CEO was responsible for general admin usually, as was claimed in the interview.

It’s usually leadership, developing the charity’s strategy, delivering its operational aims, working with stakeholders and fundraising. The Trustees are for oversight and ensuring that the charity delivers for the public benefit and ensuring legal and financial compliance.

Helleofabore · 15/11/2023 16:00

Froodwithatowel · 15/11/2023 14:46

I agree with Emma's point that it is doing nothing to raise public awareness of endometriosis, but is providing a great big bucket of drama and attention for individuals to splash in.

Reminds me somewhat of recent visitors here. Everything's a vehicle. It's all about the personal experience.

Edited

yep. Richards is very keen to expand Richards' scope of influence and increase their feminist appeal. Richards is using this charity to do so and to get included in committees etc based on this being a women's charity.

The charity, from what I suspect, is equally hoping to raise its profile by having Richards on board.

What they completely fucked up is that this was supposed to be a women centred charity. Not even a 'female' centred charity unless they limited their remit to only trans people, which they have not. I am sorry that Jody is struggling. However, that really does not absolve Jody of Jody's responsibilities which in my opinion, Jody has completely misjudged and I am not sure even fucking understands.

SunsetBeauregarde · 15/11/2023 16:01

I have endo and I don't give a single shit that this person is trans. I don't care if they know what endo feels like and using 'woman centric language' is the very last concern i have in relation to my endo.

I would want someone in that role who can advocate for better diagnostics, a 'think endo first' campaign strategy where endo isnt the very last thing they fucking look for when you present with weird symptoms that aren't related to periods (for me, it was impacting my bowels so it took 3 years to get a scan and diagnosis). I want someone in that role who can raise funds and awareness and if that person doesnt have a uterus i don't fucking care, I won't have one soon either.

I have seen huge numbers of doctors over th last few years and from personal experience, it was the female doctors who didnt listen or understand what i was going through. Massive 'suck it up, you're a woman' vibes from the women, whereas the men were the ones who actually listened. It was a man who finally diagnosed me and got me the help I needed.

So yeah, her gender has absolutely nothing to do with her ability to do the job I need her to do.

Helleofabore · 15/11/2023 16:05

SunsetBeauregarde · 15/11/2023 16:01

I have endo and I don't give a single shit that this person is trans. I don't care if they know what endo feels like and using 'woman centric language' is the very last concern i have in relation to my endo.

I would want someone in that role who can advocate for better diagnostics, a 'think endo first' campaign strategy where endo isnt the very last thing they fucking look for when you present with weird symptoms that aren't related to periods (for me, it was impacting my bowels so it took 3 years to get a scan and diagnosis). I want someone in that role who can raise funds and awareness and if that person doesnt have a uterus i don't fucking care, I won't have one soon either.

I have seen huge numbers of doctors over th last few years and from personal experience, it was the female doctors who didnt listen or understand what i was going through. Massive 'suck it up, you're a woman' vibes from the women, whereas the men were the ones who actually listened. It was a man who finally diagnosed me and got me the help I needed.

So yeah, her gender has absolutely nothing to do with her ability to do the job I need her to do.

I suspect though that this person is going to be rather focused on the trans activist version of what the charity should be doing. That is entire fucking point.

They are already very much focused with their own trans organisation, I doubt they are going to serve any woman well with their efforts here. THAT is why their 'trans activism' is an issue.

CriticalCondition · 15/11/2023 16:05

Why was Jodie up for a diversity award? Rather than a woman's award. Or did I mishear that bit?

A 'diverse' sticker on your website is an easy route to funds and profile when so many businesses and organisations are looking to improve their EDI/DIE/EID rating by bunging a few quid or lending their name to 'charidee'.

PatatiPatatras · 15/11/2023 16:07

You're saying the same thing as everyone else sunset...
I think you've missed the bit that actually grates...
I know it's easy to see MN as a nest of vipers but maybe read the thread?

SunsetBeauregarde · 15/11/2023 16:12

You 'suspect'?

You could say the same of any CEO, that they 'might' focus on the wrong things etc etc etc, her being trans doesnt automatically make her bad at this job just like being a woman wouldnt make her automatically good at the job, either.

Like I say, if she can make a difference to people like me who had to battle for diagnosis and treatment, or if she can get endo classed as a disability for the purposes of employment law so we have the same protections as other debilitating conditions I'll be thrilled. Even if she can just get conversations started about how piss poor womens health is in this country it's a bloody miracle.

SunsetBeauregarde · 15/11/2023 16:14

Why are you responding to me like I'm your enemy?

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