Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 4

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Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

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URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

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Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R

OU Departments & Networks:

HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
CT - Cath Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance

Witness for JP:

SE - Sarah Earle, Professor Modern History Uni of Oxford, Founding member GCRN

Tribunal Tweets - https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Thread 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Thread 3 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4917480-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-3

J- when you retweet who do you expect to see them?
LD - whoever is following me

LD released, gives massive sigh.

Back at 2.15pm

That's your evidence (for what it's worth is the unsaid part)

Another lurker expressing thanks to those of you providing updates. Reading this morning’s updates was so gripping I burned my lunch. I am now scraping all the burnt bits off.

Even Judge Young had to tell LD to answer the question!

She says it so fast, it blurs into one long noise.

Saying it loud like that is like a mantra.

They is instead of was indicating that they still have a twitter account. Not that I am calling them a weaselly liar.

That was a good question, i thought.

TT commentary

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1712794648530317522.html

They gave a big sigh almost like 'gosh so glad I got through that, didn't I do well?'. No Love, you really didn't...

I bet JM gives LD a massive slow hand clap. 👏🏻

She says it so fast, it blurs into one long noise.

Saying it loud like that is like a mantra.

Yes, that struck me. Every time she said it she ran all the words together, they tripped off her tongue like a recitation.

I agree, her attitude of something must be done suggests that the assumption of harm is automatic. Again no critical thinking.

And responding by saying that she doesn't have a Twitter/X account anymore.

Judge: Silence.

I wonder when she deactivated her account?

ickky well done a forensic spot if ever there was one!

they haven't booted people out?

"The Open University’s mission is to be open to people, places, methods and ideas.

Seems a rather hollow aim in the light of the behaviour and thinking that their staff are demonstrating in court when under oath?

No critical thinking needed, when you're super speshal and the Faculty always bends over backwards to cater to your every dopey, manufactured whim.

Run to the teacher, like a bratty kid 'Miss! Miss! I heard Jo swearing at lunch time!'

The 'i have a little voice' comment must have been haunting her yesterday.

God, what a bearpit academia must be today. But not the bearpit of old, where alpha men routinely got you fired or moved on if you were a Jew, communist, homosexual. Now it's beta men (cucks) and their female collaborators (clucks) like LD here for literally transgressing groupthink. Never was purported "kindness" so ruthlessly Darwinian.

It's almost as if the brutal unemotionalism of Right capitalist economics has its analogue in Left academia castes. The Right can be pretty unsympathetic is you fall on hard times, and the Left in academia happy for you to feel the burn.

There's only one person to play Dr. Leigh Downes in the movie.
Eddie/Suzzie/DickTwiddle/Izzard.
It'll be such a challenge, but I'm sure Izzard will rise to the occasion.

No, because Downes isn't remotely masculine.

I did an actual Sharp Intake of Breath there.

Hmm perhaps my sarcasm is lost in the written word re Eddie Erish😁

I couldn't possibly mention any biological description of Downes, cos it's literal violence.🙄

Today's Sex Matters memo mentions a lot about the tribunal from Maya's perspective - including that Jo's witness statement will be published at the weekend. It doesn't say where.