Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 3

[ickky]

Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

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URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

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Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R

OU Departments & Networks:

HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
CT - Cath Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance

Witness for JP:

SE - Sarah Earle, Professor Modern History Uni of Oxford, Founding member GCRN

Tribunal Tweets - https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Thread 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Well it sounds like you’re in. Did you connect with both the camera and microphone (drop down box next to connect button)? That so you receive audio and video. You turn your camera and microphone off once you’re in.

And that what it's all about 🎶

I'm getting the 'waiting for the conference host to join' announcement which I think means the clerk hasn't let me back in. Have tried several times.

I am finding my exclusion all rather triggering and may need a safe space or a support animal shortly......a rather sweet muntjac deer just ran across my garden. I had hoped it might support me and recognise how vulnerable and oppressed i am but it buggered off. It didn't even eat my weeds. Deer bigotry!

😂 To be fair, a muntjac deer is a pretty fancy support animal. Even Ben only has the humble Wren.

thanks lark

BC sounds a bit cheesed off with the witness. It must be like pulling teeth

It will be interesting to see how the whole pronoun thing goes when we get to Dr Downes who now has a different name and pronouns to the ones they was using for theyself back in 2021.

How many people are in? Maybe they're at capacity (which is a bit odd, given actual conferences take place online, but there you are...).

So, the buck didn't stop with you.

Tah dah!

Oh god, this is going to ruin my dramatis personae.

Any idea of new name and pronouns?

c 40 in. 2 waiting in lobby

It let me in earlier. But i suspect i wasn't as quick on the draw in getting back in on the break.

Is it always this hit and miss??

It is always shit, but not usually this shit.

Isn't it a little transphobic to assume the deer's gender, even in pursuit of excellent puns? Zie may have been a nonbinary deer....

Doe!

Witness don’t have a great memory of events that happened such a long time ago (2 years).

Buck or doe = supper.

In fairness, I struggle to remember what I had for dinner yesterday.

The length of time it takes to get to court is appalling.

This country's infrastructure is fucked.

Thanks, ickky.

It's very frustrating to be so hit and miss.

So the panel you appointed said take the letter down but you didn’t..?

If I was the OU I would be begging for a compensation deal with Jo

*were

Witness now employing teflon shield on behalf of the role of the working group.

Is it pure bone idleness on her part, or just fear of the TRA backlash?

Can the OU agree a deal and stop the tribunal? Or does it have to run to completion