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Rishi Sunak - "a man is a man, a woman is a woman"

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Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:44

..and how we shouldn't be bullied into believing somebody can be any sex that they want.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJcxUehh/

AIBU to want to give him a round of applause?

I know, it's convenient timing and obviously a strategy move but how good is it to hear that straight from the horses mouth when the country has spent the past god knows how long bowing down to the loud and often disturbed minority.

I still can't stand the Tories and won't be voting for them but cheers for acknowledging the insanity, Rishi.

PoliticsJOE on TikTok

#fy #fyp #fypシ #tory #conservative #rishisunak #trans

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJcxUehh

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ilovesooty · 04/10/2023 22:52

Icedlatteplease · 04/10/2023 21:50

Nope. Knowing what a woman is does not make up for Destroying A levels.

Or screwing vulnerable people and women over for the past 13 years.

lifeturnsonadime · 04/10/2023 22:53

And as for small @Messyhair321 how many women have to be raped in single sex NHS wards by trans women to make you think this is not fair on women? Is one not enough, please quantify exactly how many women have to be thrown under the bus so males can get what they want?

Ellos · 04/10/2023 22:53

Messyhair321 · 04/10/2023 22:50

@lifeturnsonadime yeah you need to stop pushing your beliefs onto other people, because they are outdated and stink of fear & ignorance. Respect other people? really, I would take a long hard look in the mirror. If the worst thing that can happen to you is that a trans person enters into a bathroom you want to piss in, well you have a good life I can tell you that much. Maybe look around at people who are really suffering, because your reality is small.

Tell that to the woman who was raped in a hospital and then gaslighted about how she couldn't have possibly been raped because there were no men there.

The women put at risk and assaulted in a woman's prison.

Or how about the women trying to earn a living in Canada who had their businesses shut down because they refused to wax Jonathan Yaniv's balls.

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OvaHere · 04/10/2023 22:54

Messyhair321 · 04/10/2023 22:50

@lifeturnsonadime yeah you need to stop pushing your beliefs onto other people, because they are outdated and stink of fear & ignorance. Respect other people? really, I would take a long hard look in the mirror. If the worst thing that can happen to you is that a trans person enters into a bathroom you want to piss in, well you have a good life I can tell you that much. Maybe look around at people who are really suffering, because your reality is small.

At least her reality is reality.

Women have every reason to fear men in their spaces.

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 22:54

lifeturnsonadime · 04/10/2023 22:45

Your daughter will always be male.

I hope you are teaching your daughter boundaries and to respect the fact that her presence in single sex spaces is without consent and will cause others harm.

Because it will.

I am glad your daughter is happy. I think you should work with her to understand the boundaries of women though and that she is not female and has no right to go where she should not be without consent.

What a horrible reply.
@JustBeKinder ’s daughter is at risk of coming to harm, not causing it.

Meanwhile cis men have always and will always intrude, attack, abuse and ignore women’s spaces.

Once again women are being goaded into in-fighting while the men fuck us over.

ilovesooty · 04/10/2023 22:54

Thinkingofbankruptcy · 04/10/2023 21:53

Thank god he finally fucking said it.

they’ll win the election on the back of that.

🤣🤣🤣

OvaHere · 04/10/2023 22:57

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 22:54

What a horrible reply.
@JustBeKinder ’s daughter is at risk of coming to harm, not causing it.

Meanwhile cis men have always and will always intrude, attack, abuse and ignore women’s spaces.

Once again women are being goaded into in-fighting while the men fuck us over.

You have no idea if that's true or not. Karen White and Isla Bryson both have mothers.

There's no material difference between males who call themselves men and those that don't.

Mammyloveswine · 04/10/2023 22:57

Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:44

..and how we shouldn't be bullied into believing somebody can be any sex that they want.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJcxUehh/

AIBU to want to give him a round of applause?

I know, it's convenient timing and obviously a strategy move but how good is it to hear that straight from the horses mouth when the country has spent the past god knows how long bowing down to the loud and often disturbed minority.

I still can't stand the Tories and won't be voting for them but cheers for acknowledging the insanity, Rishi.

It is not right that people are marginalised....,

AnneLovesGilbert · 04/10/2023 22:57

Who are you planning to vote for OP?

If Starmer ducks the whole thing next week what will you do?

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 22:57

lifeturnsonadime · 04/10/2023 22:53

And as for small @Messyhair321 how many women have to be raped in single sex NHS wards by trans women to make you think this is not fair on women? Is one not enough, please quantify exactly how many women have to be thrown under the bus so males can get what they want?

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Because cis men never rape women in hospital?

Becoming trans is not necessary. Men go where they please and do as they want. Transitioning and becoming one of the most discriminated people in our society is just not a necessary step.

lifeturnsonadime · 04/10/2023 22:57

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 22:54

What a horrible reply.
@JustBeKinder ’s daughter is at risk of coming to harm, not causing it.

Meanwhile cis men have always and will always intrude, attack, abuse and ignore women’s spaces.

Once again women are being goaded into in-fighting while the men fuck us over.

What's the difference between a cis man and a trans woman and how did that affect the outcome of the poor woman who was raped by a 'vulnerable' trans woman in a single sex (women's ward) in an NHS hospital?

I am absolutely sure that @JustBeKinder's daughter is lovely. But so is my husband, my brothers and my son. We don't allow males in places where women are vulnerable for good reason, even the lovely ones.

Women matter and we need single sex spaces for safeguarding reasons. If @JustBeKinder's daughter is not safe in male spaces then they need to advocate for third spaces and I'll fight right along them.

Women are not human shields for males.

Ellos · 04/10/2023 22:59

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 22:54

What a horrible reply.
@JustBeKinder ’s daughter is at risk of coming to harm, not causing it.

Meanwhile cis men have always and will always intrude, attack, abuse and ignore women’s spaces.

Once again women are being goaded into in-fighting while the men fuck us over.

Oh god, please no more of the 'cis' business..

What happened to

Man
Woman
Trans woman
Trans man

When did those terms become so offensive and why?

There's no need for cis anything, or that ridiculous non binary stuff.

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Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 22:59

OvaHere · 04/10/2023 22:57

You have no idea if that's true or not. Karen White and Isla Bryson both have mothers.

There's no material difference between males who call themselves men and those that don't.

What? Male perpetrators all have mothers too!
What I’m saying is trans women are at a much higher risk of being victims of violence.

Abhannmor · 04/10/2023 23:00

Abergale · 04/10/2023 21:52

What’s with the start of that clip: “life means life” remark he makes? Does he mean we should all enjoy life or something else?

It was an irritating hit record in the 80s I think. Probably Rishi heard it at a college disco. Bit of an earworm.

lifeturnsonadime · 04/10/2023 23:00

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 22:57

Because cis men never rape women in hospital?

Becoming trans is not necessary. Men go where they please and do as they want. Transitioning and becoming one of the most discriminated people in our society is just not a necessary step.

Men are not allowed in women's wards as in-patients for good reason.

Women are safeguarded against all males for good reason. This transwoman was not claiming to be cis, they abused their trans identity to rape a vulnerable woman. Just like Karen White abused her trans identity to sexually assault vulnerable women in a women's prison.

Don't you think adult human females have the right to be safe from any male, even those who adopt a trans identity? If not, why not?

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 23:01

lifeturnsonadime · 04/10/2023 23:00

Men are not allowed in women's wards as in-patients for good reason.

Women are safeguarded against all males for good reason. This transwoman was not claiming to be cis, they abused their trans identity to rape a vulnerable woman. Just like Karen White abused her trans identity to sexually assault vulnerable women in a women's prison.

Don't you think adult human females have the right to be safe from any male, even those who adopt a trans identity? If not, why not?

Women are never safe from male violence. Of course they should be. But they aren’t. We aren’t. I include trans women in that .
Safe spaces for all women are a myth until we get male violence under control.

OvaHere · 04/10/2023 23:02

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 22:59

What? Male perpetrators all have mothers too!
What I’m saying is trans women are at a much higher risk of being victims of violence.

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That's just not true and government statistics bear that out.

Ellos · 04/10/2023 23:02

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 23:01

Women are never safe from male violence. Of course they should be. But they aren’t. We aren’t. I include trans women in that .
Safe spaces for all women are a myth until we get male violence under control.

Trans women have a much better chance of defending themselves against a 'cis' man..

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lifeturnsonadime · 04/10/2023 23:04

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 23:01

Women are never safe from male violence. Of course they should be. But they aren’t. We aren’t. I include trans women in that .
Safe spaces for all women are a myth until we get male violence under control.

The fact that some males (trans women) are not safe from other males is not a problem for women to solve.

We should not be put at risk to protect a subset of males. Gay males are also at risk so are disabled males, or short males, we don't allow those males in women's spaces.

Women, adult human females are human. We deserve protection for all males. This is nothing to do with these males being trans women. It is because they are male.

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 23:04

Ellos · 04/10/2023 22:59

Oh god, please no more of the 'cis' business..

What happened to

Man
Woman
Trans woman
Trans man

When did those terms become so offensive and why?

There's no need for cis anything, or that ridiculous non binary stuff.

Seems like you’re the one offended.

OvaHere · 04/10/2023 23:04

Thementalloadisreal · 04/10/2023 22:57

Because cis men never rape women in hospital?

Becoming trans is not necessary. Men go where they please and do as they want. Transitioning and becoming one of the most discriminated people in our society is just not a necessary step.

Yes men do go where they please and do as they want which is why we're in this insane mess in the first place where the notion of 'female penis' is being indulged.

Tandora · 04/10/2023 23:04

Ellos · 04/10/2023 21:44

..and how we shouldn't be bullied into believing somebody can be any sex that they want.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJcxUehh/

AIBU to want to give him a round of applause?

I know, it's convenient timing and obviously a strategy move but how good is it to hear that straight from the horses mouth when the country has spent the past god knows how long bowing down to the loud and often disturbed minority.

I still can't stand the Tories and won't be voting for them but cheers for acknowledging the insanity, Rishi.

and how we shouldn't be bullied into believing somebody can be any sex that they want

If they truly can’t, then what are you so angry about/ afraid of/ fighting so hard for? If it’s impossible for people to change sex surely your work is done? Move on to more pertinent and relevant topics?

bringbacktheladiesloos · 04/10/2023 23:05

Ellos · 04/10/2023 22:59

Oh god, please no more of the 'cis' business..

What happened to

Man
Woman
Trans woman
Trans man

When did those terms become so offensive and why?

There's no need for cis anything, or that ridiculous non binary stuff.

They are just desperately trying to give us the prefix.

It's all so childish.

WhatWillEyeCallMyself · 04/10/2023 23:05

Rishi Sunak would say the world was flat is he thought it would win him some votes.

Please please don't be fooled into supporting these maniacs. There is so much more in this conference which is terrifying and shows why these people need to be removed from any power asap.

80sMum · 04/10/2023 23:06

Hooray for Rishi! That one sentence from him almost made me want to vote Conservative!

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